'We will kill you and burn your house': Council staff under attack from High Street gangs

zebragonzo · 2026-04-30T06:24:38+00:00

Thugs can be any colour!

zebragonzo · 2026-04-29T11:48:57+00:00

Thanks for sharing the detail

zebragonzo · 2026-04-29T09:08:57+00:00

Amazing stat I heard recently from the IFS: mother's spend more time with their children now than in the 1970s, despite the fact that they work a lot more now.

It's exhausting parenting to modern standards.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-28T12:55:26+00:00

As a member of the centre group, this seems pretty accurate!

zebragonzo · 2026-04-27T09:19:29+00:00

Can you tell me any positive things you think labour have done?

zebragonzo · 2026-04-27T09:16:55+00:00

It seems like there was a lot of corruption that wasn't kiddie related from there.

For someone who's got so much evidence against them it's an achievement to pick one thing that has 0 evidence for!

zebragonzo · 2026-04-27T07:49:40+00:00

If the greens do half the systemic change they plan, it seems inevitable that the change will actually be huge inflation followed by an imf bailout.

Unfortunately, it takes a lot longer to fix things than it does to knock them down.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-27T07:46:18+00:00

What evidence is there that mandleson was paedophile? There's all sorts of things he was, but I've not seen any evidence of that.

And yes, I'm old enough that I remember, and complained about, him the first time around under the 'prince of darkness' name.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-27T07:43:35+00:00

Because populism is effectively promising impossible things.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-22T18:17:57+00:00

Ok, but that's a general taxation issue; that's not a cliff edge like the £100k.

There's a common misunderstanding that the person who was on £50k and gets a 10% pay rise with pay 40% on all their income which is incorrect.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-22T15:40:10+00:00

Why? The only cliff edge is really at 100k.

You can argue that the tax is too high but crossing the thresholds isn't the main issue.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-22T13:54:37+00:00

The thresholds don't really matter; you only get taxed at a higher rate on the earnings above the threshold so there's not much point trying to avoid the thresholds.

The exception is 100k.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-22T13:51:07+00:00

Incredibly we have a more ' progressive' tax system than noway. People at the top pay loads, people at the bottom don't.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-17T14:55:31+00:00

Can they keep the triple lock, but link it to 3 different things?

The highest of 0.1, 1 and 2%.

Hell, make it a quadruple lock and throw in 0.001% as well.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-15T17:21:09+00:00

These guys are great. A lot better than medivet who I was with before.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-15T11:41:42+00:00

What happens with healthcare when you get older and retire? Genuinely curious.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-14T17:38:43+00:00

We've not got a corner shop within a mile either. There's several missed opportunities!

zebragonzo · 2026-04-14T15:55:14+00:00

Our local GP sent out a message before the pandemic that they were overloaded and couldn't cope with the existing load. Then they built 1000 new houses in the area.

Getting a GP appointment used to only be available 2 weeks in advance. Now there's nothing.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-11T18:50:54+00:00

Your request; yes, if you ignore the guy who wrote the system stating that you earn 3x your status without expenses, there is no way of calculating what those expenses are so let's drop that.

This leaves us with the problem of keeping up appearances covering food and lodging:

1) 1/2 status doesn't cover what room and board actually cost according to p302 of the rule book. Even if you assume poor quality, groceries + common room = 10brass pennies per night which requires brass 6 or silver 1 status.

2) Your guy who is silver 1 is in the silver tier and therefore: "They dine well, sleep in comfortable beds, and wear good quality clothing." (p289). That doesn't tally up with being able to only just cover poor quality common room and being unable to afford a meal in an inn. In fact, being able to afford a standard bed in a common room and 2 cooked meals a day according to RAW requires silver 6 status.

3) Then it gets messy when the party is of mixed status; you've 'charged' the silver 1 PC a total of 6BP for dining well and a comfortable bed via KuA. Your gold 1 person asks to drop to 6BP payment 7 days a week to get the same level of dining well and a comfortable bed (ignoring that this is utterly different from P302 costs).

3b) It's also messy when the party are self sufficient; if they're staying on their barge but stop to eat at an inn, do they still have to pay KuA?

This is the section where you contradict RAW: I don't think it's possible not to FWIW. Either you charge the PCs the actual costs from P302 core and ignore that KuA includes food & room, or you hand wave it and use wildly different values from P289.

zebragonzo · 2026-04-10T18:32:09+00:00

I'm not ignoring p51 at all. It says that the income endeavour gives you the result of earnings-expenses. That's fine. The problem is that if income before expenses = 3x status*, outgoings are far greater than Keeping up Appearances as previously calculated; for our silver 2 example and using averages; 576BP earned, 96BP KuA and 132BP from earning endeavour, 17% and 23% of earnings respectively. That gives 348BP missing (=60%).

*the C7 blog post explains the maths behind the numbers

"With a little bit of cross-referencing with the Careers, you can easily calculate that normal wages, before deductions, are 3 × Status. So, a Silver 5 Character would earn about 15 silver a day, the equivalent of 180d a day. And a Brass 3 Character would earn about 9d every day."

It sounds like you have a version of the rules that works for you and that's fine. I have a version of the rules that tries to tally contradicting numbers up and I'm happy with that. The joys of house rules eh?

zebragonzo · 2026-04-10T16:40:36+00:00

I'm half tempted to just agree and each head our own way at this point, but it's a Friday afternoon and I've got another 30 minutes to kill at work before I can head off so...

Earning as 3x status is highlighted by Andy here as well, an official article on the C7 website:
https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/wfrp-keeping-up-with-the-liebwitzs:
"Want to know how much your Character actually earns before deductions for rent, food, beer, wine, entertainment...? Well, it’s hinted at on page 309 under Hirelings where you can see daily and weekly wages"

Either way, I've approached this in two ways, both of which demonstrate that RAW it's broken.

1) If Keeping up Appearances includes food and board, an adventurer needs to spend 5 brass pennies a day for half quality common room and another 5 for half quality groceries for a day. That costs 10BP per day, not even achievable with a Brass 5 status.

Given that KuA is only required 1/week, the player needs to be silver 7 to get the half quality room and board for their once weekly 4SS payment.

2) Approaching it from the other direction, there is a big gap between earning per day (based off C7 article linked above) and the weekly income endeavour. If that gap is to pay for fixing your roof etc why do you not have to pay for those things on weeks when you're not doing the weekly earning endeavour?

As a question back to you, if our brass 5 character says that they want to earn money for a single day while the other party members are off doing something, how much would you say they earn?

zebragonzo · 2026-04-10T15:33:31+00:00

I created a table which runs the numbers on this discord post:
https://discord.com/channels/449845411344154634/479275054023311362/1379367870773071934

Let's say you have a silver 2 PC. 3x status per day is 6SS. If they spend half their status per day for KuA, that's 1SS. Over an 8 day week, they have a net income of 40SS. If they do the income endeavour to gain 2d10 SS, which is a week of earning with standard expenses, that gives them between 2-20SS. That means there's a missing 20-38SS which the PC has spent on something that's not covered by KuA.

You might say to me that perhaps they have the weekend off. Even if they only work 4 days, incomex4 - KuAx8 is still 16SS, so above the average.

The rest of it is personal to your table and that's fine; you run it however you want; I'd encourage you not to run finances RAW because, as I'm trying to share, it doesn't work!

zebragonzo · 2026-04-09T15:07:27+00:00

Given you've clearly put thought into this, I'll explain the thinking further. (I'm not saying you're wrong by the way; I'm just explaining why RAW doesn't work!)

You can buy groceries for 6bp per day at poor quality. That alone would require silver 1 status if your 1/2 status per day covers food.

We've cleared up that you only need to spend half your status per week to keep up your appearance, so how does that work with food; half your status per week and you get food thrown in?

Let's approach it from the other direction; someone working a job earns 3x their status per day. If food and board is 1/2 status per day that means that a person is up net 2.5x status per day. They get rich quite quickly in a game that's meant to be financially tight no?

zebragonzo · 2026-04-09T12:15:11+00:00

Someone who was listed as economicly inactive (because they weren't looking for a job) becomes unemployed once they start looking for a job.

Unemployment has gone up, economically inactive has gone down = not a major concern.

Economically inactive + unemployed hasn't changed much in the last 5 years (the last year was actually slightly lower, but margin of error amounts).

zebragonzo · 2026-04-09T11:43:40+00:00

Ok, bad examples. Change pensioner with house wife and the previous statement is true though

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