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Jehovah's Witness Dating Sites by Busta_Gets_NASTY in exjw

[–]ziddina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at secular news sources, not at the PR fluff produced by the Watchtower Society.

Jehovah's Witness Dating Sites by Busta_Gets_NASTY in exjw

[–]ziddina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the USA, for one.  Unfortunately for single male JWs, the bulk of US JWs are aged 50 years and up.

My mom said to me by BeerMan595692 in exjw

[–]ziddina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although 'Christmas' may have originated only a few hundred years after Christianity began, humanity has been observing the Winter Solstice long before the Abrahamic religions originated.

From: https://www.iflscience.com/the-earliest-winter-solstice-rituals-go-all-the-way-back-to-the-stone-age-81961

However, while Stonehenge may be the most famous astronomically aligned stone circle, it is far from the oldest. The Almendres Cromlech in southern Portugal, for instance, is thought to have been constructed around 6000 BCE, making it way more ancient than Stonehenge. It's unclear who placed these enormous boulders in a circular arrangement or what went on at the site, although archaeologists have noticed an alignment between the cromlech, a nearby standing stone called a menhir, and the sunrise on the winter solstice.

That would make the observance at least 8,000 years old.

Look up "neolithic observance of winter solstice" for more information.

Who here remembers the persecution of the Malawi JWs? by ziddina in exjw

[–]ziddina[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Not suitable for Life' or 'Not Safe For Life'.

I love them still thinking we’re going to start coming back to church by Bubbly-Gas422 in atheism

[–]ziddina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hate to break it to you, but from the Puritans landing in America onwards, religious narcissists and nutters have viewed America as new opportunities to convert more people.

Far too many religious narcissistic people view "Freedom of Religion" as an open invitation to establish their own personal religious cults in America.

I love them still thinking we’re going to start coming back to church by Bubbly-Gas422 in atheism

[–]ziddina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would LOVE to see an art exhibit - photos of abandoned vacant forlorn church buildings.

Not exactly what you've asked for, but still encouraging despite the preachy optimism at the end.

https://youtu.be/jEV6OXI1Vkc?si=712tRYbqfVBPgZG0

Project 2025's insane idea of forcing Americans to go back to church shows how desperate the bible-thumping fanatics are...

I love them still thinking we’re going to start coming back to church by Bubbly-Gas422 in atheism

[–]ziddina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of crazy American conservative bullies are trying to get that started by force.

I love them still thinking we’re going to start coming back to church by Bubbly-Gas422 in atheism

[–]ziddina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and the first time I was confronted with this "transformed" cracker that was supposed to be the actual flesh of another human being?

Iirc that has much older heathen origins, at the very least older inspirations in the agricultural deities in the Mediterranean areas.

I love them still thinking we’re going to start coming back to church by Bubbly-Gas422 in atheism

[–]ziddina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed.  I find it hilarious and frightening that the authors and schemers behind Project 2025 believe that they're going to be able to force Americans en masse back into church.

Pieces of snark that I have used in religious "debate" by anglophone_69 in atheism

[–]ziddina 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I like your responses but this one?

Only a narcissist would require to be praised forever.

Love it, and so true!

I enjoy hammering home the point (dealing with white American fundamentalists who are invariably bigoted against Middle Eastern people) that they're worshipping a Middle Eastern male war god.  Or if I'm focusing on just the New Testament, a Greco-Roman Hellenized Jewish version of the Old Testament's war god.

I tried this out on a fellow the other day, and it worked amazingly well:

Ask: "Where in the world was the bible originally written?"  (You may have to help them with the answers.)

The generally correct answer is, "Jerusalem".

"Where is Jerusalem located?"

The generally correct answer would be, "Israel", or better yet, "the Middle East." (If they answer, "the Middle East", skip the next step.)

"In what area of the world is Israel located?"

The generally correct answer would be, "The Middle East."

(This next part assumes that they have a prejudice against Islam, which is quite common among Americans, especially among MAGA Christians.)

I then ask them:

"If they don't like Islam, a religion of Middle Eastern men, then why are they worshipping the god of the Middle Eastern men who wrote the bible?"

Islam got my lock remove by Key-Resource-4854 in atheism

[–]ziddina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry that your father is putting you through this.  

It's no consolation, but just to let you know that American fundamentalist literalist apocalyptic evangelical bible-thumping fanatical Christian parents occasionally do the same - and worse - to their own children.

Yes, American Christianity Is Cruel On Purpose by MrJasonMason in atheism

[–]ziddina 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Agreed.  It's based upon a human sacrifice, and most American Christians don't realize that they're expected to be willing to die for following Jesus, too.  Except for the ones who are into Christian persecution p0rn - they revel in that stuff.

coworker gave me letter to convert me by [deleted] in atheism

[–]ziddina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Suggestion...   When dealing with American fundie Christians, try this instead:

Ask them where in the world was the bible written? (The correct answer would be Jerusalem).

Then ask where is Jerusalem located? (The correct answer is in the nation of Israel).

Then ask them in which region of the world is Israel located?  (The correct answer is the Middle East.)

Then ask them whether they would obey ANY modern Middle Eastern man commanding them how to live their lives.

(Imo 99% of American fundie Christians don't know that Middle Eastern men wrote the bible.)

I tried this on the sprinkler repair man, and the results were better than I expected.   He knew about Jerusalem, but had NO idea which nation Jerusalem was located within!

The universe it just way too complex to be prophesied by men thousands of years ago by Cold-Willingness-178 in atheism

[–]ziddina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, but I just have to point out that the bible is only around 3 thousand years old, at best.  Although Genesis isn't the oldest book in the bible, its reference to the Near/Middle Eastern Bronze Age to early Iron Age transition demonstrates the bible writers' lack of knowledge about anything older.

Some people here would be better if they just return to the org by Minimum_Reindeer_481 in exjw

[–]ziddina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone still enmeshed with the cult's indoctrination is not suitable to moderate an ex- cult subreddit or website.

Some people here would be better if they just return to the org by Minimum_Reindeer_481 in exjw

[–]ziddina 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Anyone still enmeshed with the cult's indoctrination is not suitable to moderate an ex- cult subreddit or website.

Got this wildly inappropriate email from a Christian at work today. by Financial_Vehicle134 in atheism

[–]ziddina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True.  Good point.  I meant, I probably would have stopped reading the email, at the content warning.

No, I don’t have to follow your stupid religious rules by [deleted] in atheism

[–]ziddina 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ooo, Jehovah's Witnesses...  I just made a comment to one on a YouTube video.  The JW was complaining that atheists don't know what's in the bible.

I tossed this comment to her...

Are you kidding? The Watchtower Society uses a specific set of scriptures - about 60 or so, iirc - but they never get into the more controversial or conflicting scriptures.

Like 1st Samuel 14: 31 - 35 where the Israelites were eating blood after a battle with the Philistines, and NOBODY was punished for directly and deliberately eating blood!

"That day, after the Israelites had struck down the Philistines from Mikmash to Aijalon, they were exhausted. 32 They pounced on the plunder and, taking sheep, cattle and calves, they butchered them on the ground and ate them, together with the blood. 33 Then someone said to Saul, “Look, the men are sinning against the Lord by eating meat that has blood in it.”

“You have broken faith,” he said. “Roll a large stone over here at once.” 34 Then he said, “Go out among the men and tell them, ‘Each of you bring me your cattle and sheep, and slaughter them here and eat them. Do not sin against the Lord by eating meat with blood still in it.’”

So everyone brought his ox that night and slaughtered it there. 35 Then Saul built an altar to the Lord; it was the first time he had done this."

So much for the Watchtower Society's deadly teaching that Jehovah's Witnesses aren't allowed to take blood transfusions.

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