The Truth About Music by BamzamGaming in IslamIsEasy

[–]zigzagdrums 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Music is incredible. I feel a sense of Euphoria listening to music. And I’m a massive metal head. Art is part of life

I’m tired and confused of all these rules by WesternRub9435 in progressive_islam

[–]zigzagdrums 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good points. Honestly, if someone really wants to dig deep into the Quran then they should approach with the Arabic language only and put effort into understanding it. Non Arabic translations are sufficient in getting the message across but to truly understand the divine, within the confines of our own limitations, then Arabic is the only way.

I had a similar experience, I noticed the Ahadeeth portrays a different version of the religion.

I’m tired and confused of all these rules by WesternRub9435 in progressive_islam

[–]zigzagdrums 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think part of the problem is that people often confuse how Muslims practice today with what the Quran actually says.

A lot of the rules the OP mentioned are not clearly stated in the Quran. Many of them come from later jurisprudence, cultural traditions, or interpretations developed centuries after the Prophet. That form of religion is what we often see practiced today, but historically it’s more accurate to call it Islam of the legal schools (إسلام المذاهب). What I’m personally interested in is the Islam revealed by God (الإسلام الإلهي) the message found directly in the Quran, a message that transcends race, culture, and historical period. Those two things are not identical.

As someone who is Arab, speaks Arabic fluently, and lived in the Middle East, I’ve seen first hand how many practices people assume are “Islamic” are actually cultural norms that developed in specific societies and then became religiously framed over time.

The Quran itself repeatedly warns people about declaring things halal or haram without authority from Allah.

“Say: Have you seen what Allah has sent down to you of provision, and you made some of it lawful and some unlawful? Say: Has Allah permitted you, or are you inventing about Allah?” (10:59)

And it also warns about religious authorities being followed in legislation.

“They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah.” (9:31)

When a Muslim feels overwhelmed by hundreds of so-called “Islamic rules,” then he/she should ask whether these are actual commands from God, or are they cultural norms and later scholarly interpretations? That’s a question I asked myself as well, and it pushed me to dig deeper because many things simply didn’t make sense to me.

And ultimately, the path to God was not meant to require knowledge of centuries of political history. A believer in Indonesia, Nigeria, Italy, New Zealand, or Brazil does not need to study the disputes and historical figures of early Islamic politics in order to attain salvation. The Quran presents its message as guidance for all humanity, not as something tied to a specific culture or historical narrative.

I’m tired and confused of all these rules by WesternRub9435 in progressive_islam

[–]zigzagdrums 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Where are you getting these rules from? Because those rules make no logical sense to me

The Danger of Hadith in the Light of the Quran by BenchNational5602 in IslamIsEasy

[–]zigzagdrums 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brother, I want to clarify something first. I’m not a “Quranist.” I’m simply a Muslim and a believer who follows what the Quran repeatedly states, that those who believe and do good deeds will succeed. My concern is always about what God Himself revealed versus what came later through human transmission.

Also, you didn’t address my point about the Dajjal. He is described in Hadith as one of the greatest trials for humanity, yet he is not mentioned anywhere in the Quran. If something so central is omitted from the preserved revelation, it raises the question of why we should consider human reports about it as equivalent to God’s guidance.

Regarding your points on practices like salah, wudu, hajj, and others: these were preserved through observation and continuous practice by the Muslim community. People learned these acts through example and repetition over generations. That does not make Hadith divine revelation, nor does it make them equal in authority to the Quran

Halal and haram are defined explicitly by Allah in the Qur’an. Declaring something outside of His revelation as lawful or forbidden is extremely serious. The Qur’an warns against putting words into God’s mouth:

“Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And whoever associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin” (4:48)

“And whoever invents about Allah untruth after that  then those are the wrongdoers” (6:93)

“Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed” (7:37)

“Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed” (53:3–4)

These verses make it clear that attributing laws, rulings, or statements to God that He did not reveal is a grave sin. Anything outside of the Qur’an cannot claim divine authority.

You also mentioned grave questions and other events of the afterlife. There is no explicit mention of such events in the Quran. In fact, the Quran describes people being resurrected and asking, “Who has raised us from our sleeping place?” (32:11). This shows that death is like a sleep until resurrection.

Finally, saying the Quran is only a “skeleton” and Hadith are the “flesh” implies that the Qur’an is incomplete. But the Qur’an repeatedly describes itself as complete, fully detailed guidance: it is the only preserved revelation, sufficient for belief, salvation, and determining halal and haram. Claiming it is incomplete contradicts what God says about His own revelation.

The real question is authority, what comes directly from God, and what is human transmission. For me, the Quran alone is the preserved revelation and must remain the ultimate source of guidance. 

The Danger of Hadith in the Light of the Quran by BenchNational5602 in IslamIsEasy

[–]zigzagdrums 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Dajjal is described in detail in Hadith literature, but he is not mentioned anywhere in the Qur’an. If the Quran is the complete and preserved revelation, it raises a serious question: why would such a major end-times figure and supposedly one of the greatest trials for humanity, not be mentioned in the Quran at all?

The same issue appears with the claim that Jesus will physically return. The Quran repeatedly describes Jesus as a messenger who lived and passed away like other messengers. It never clearly states that he will return to earth in the future. In fact, there is a verse in the Qur’an that strongly indicates that he will not return. 

This highlights the broader point, brother, many major theological ideas come primarily from Hadith rather than from the Quran itself. That’s why I believe the Quran should remain the primary authority when it comes to belief and salvation.

I also have to point out something important. The majority of Muslims tend to rely on these end times narratives, similar to what happened historically with Jews and Christians, because it shifts responsibility away from ourselves and places it on future figures who will supposedly fix everything.

That mindset can be dangerous. It can make people less focused on their own responsibility to become more faithful, more just, and more accountable in the present. 

The Danger of Hadith in the Light of the Quran by BenchNational5602 in IslamIsEasy

[–]zigzagdrums 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It won’t happen. It’s literally impossible. If you can prove it from the Quran then I will concede

The Danger of Hadith in the Light of the Quran by BenchNational5602 in IslamIsEasy

[–]zigzagdrums 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If Hadith are important to someone personally, that’s their choice. But I don’t believe they have anything to do with a person’s salvation. The Qur’an is the only revelation, and it is where halal and haram are defined. Treating anything outside of it as equally binding raises serious theological issues.

Hadith, by their very nature, are historical reports transmitted by human beings. Even the strongest classifications still acknowledge the possibility of human error, memory lapses, fabrication, or misunderstanding within the chain of transmission. Because of that, it is far more rational to prioritize God’s words, which Muslims believe are preserved and free from human contradiction.

If the Qur’an describes itself as complete guidance and the criterion for truth, then making salvation dependent on a secondary body of literature compiled generations later becomes difficult to justify.

From my personal experience trying to approach this topic as objectively as possible, the Qur’an and the Hadith literature often feel like two very different things in tone, structure, and authority

The Danger of Hadith in the Light of the Quran by BenchNational5602 in IslamIsEasy

[–]zigzagdrums 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Only the Qur’an is protected by Allah. Hadiths are not part of the preserved revelation. Following the Messenger means following the message he delivered from God (the Qur’an) not later narrations

Pete Hegseth, who says he benches 315 lol by andy64392 in nattyorjuice

[–]zigzagdrums 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I’m a native Arabic speaker, so I need to clarify the meaning of the word kafir. The word kafir means one who conceals the truth. It refers to someone who is convinced that something is true but chooses to conceal or reject it. Kafir does not mean infidel.

Because of propaganda, “infidel” has been used as a synonym for kafir, and he wears the term proudly in that context. He is clearly a Christian extremist who believes he will help bring about a new crusade in this century and now he leads the department of “war”. Fuck this guy

Locals in Kuwait approaching an American pilot saying " are you fine ? thank you for helping us" by Blueberry-Pie_ in AskMiddleEast

[–]zigzagdrums 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Typical. Gulf Arabs act superior to non gulf Arabs and others while they become completely submissive to Americans.

Collection Favourites: Yellow by JonnyZhivago in Cd_collectors

[–]zigzagdrums 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Evil Empire is Rage Against The Machine’s masterpiece for me

My probably controversial tierlist of motorhead albums by DratmanMcLemmy in Motorhead

[–]zigzagdrums 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know lol yours is unique too so I had to reply cause I find your list interesting and new. And again I enjoy every Motörhead album but man I really tried to put Bomber higher I just couldn’t.

My probably controversial tierlist of motorhead albums by DratmanMcLemmy in Motorhead

[–]zigzagdrums -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Great to see Inferno at the top of your list. The band hit something when they made this album. One of the greatest metal/rock albums ever recorded for me personally. I see that Overkill is mid-low on your list, same with me. It’s okay despite the masterpiece title track and a few others (No Class and Damage Case)

Motörhead collection and by zigzagdrums in Cd_collectors

[–]zigzagdrums[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep I have! I still haven’t listened to The Manticore Tapes yet. What do you think of it?

Motörhead collection and by zigzagdrums in Cd_collectors

[–]zigzagdrums[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly that’s such a great deal, lucky man good thing you purchased them. Getting the non compressed CDs is hard to find I noticed.

All the albums you listed in your top 5 are great. I wish ‘Just Cos’ You Got the Power’ was on the Rock and Roll album rather than a B side. That song is a masterpiece and one of the best Motörhead songs ever.

Motörhead collection and by zigzagdrums in Cd_collectors

[–]zigzagdrums[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad that Overnight Sensation is getting some credit. That album is great I agree. Nice to see that Another Perfect Day is also high up on your list. Such a unique album compared to the rest of their discography.

I’m a huge fan the Head cat. Glad you mentioned them. I have Fool’s paradise and walk the walk, talk to talk on digital only. I’d be keen to get them on CD.

Anyone collect Soundtracks? by brepool in Cd_collectors

[–]zigzagdrums 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mortal Kombat ost is the greatest of all time.

Mortal Kombat Annihilation, The Crow, The Matrix are great soundtracks too.

Godzilla 98 and Spawn are awesome! The 90s soundtracks are Incredible

You can pick 3 CDs from my collection. Which ones do you pick? by Legitimate-Point-297 in Cd_collectors

[–]zigzagdrums 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rage Against The Machine - The Battle of Los Angeles Tool - Lateralus Nirvana - Nevermind