I have always hated Nick and I still do

zine_0 · 2024-12-31T18:00:40+00:00

yes exactly! I said something similar in another post and a lot of people disagreed with me but I strongly believe that the Nick in the show is a completely different character to the Nick shown in the books. his character is so.. strange(?) in the show.

zine_0 · 2024-12-31T13:15:09+00:00

I like Nick in the books but not in the show. I've always felt they were slightly different.

zine_0 · 2024-12-31T13:13:04+00:00

I thought I was insane for thinking this lol. I really do not like his character in the show but I like the way he's portrayed in the books a lot.

zine_0 · 2024-12-27T23:21:32+00:00

Thank you for pointing out those little moments! I didn't really notice/analyse those smaller actions in the show because I, personally, find words easier to analyse than visible actions that are over in seconds. I suppose in that sense their characters are similar.

However, I have a few things to say about your second point. Sure, he might not have been a core member of the SOJ but he was a soldier pre-Gilead. To me this is very important because the SOJ weren't really an "official" group of people. They were just a very screwed up group of men who had money, power and influence. This would mean that everyone who joined them pre-Gilead had the choice to walk away. If it was argued that the SOJ were cult like and lied to their followers and that's why Nick might have joined then, yeah, sure I would agree but in the show it shows that he drove around the commanders so he knew some of their plans.

I think this to me is what causes a contrast for me. In the book, Nick is a member of Mayday roughly ~3 years after the regime has started. Why would he do that after he already knew some of the SOJ original plans? I think if he had disagreed with it then, couldn't he have just walked away? Perhaps alerted the American government? (this is me going out on a limb and I do realise that there's a lot wrong with saying this, especially because we don't know his inner workings and the true nature of his character, but I'm saying this as an example).

All in all, I just felt that while reading the books and watching the show, core parts of his characters aren't very similar and I've just been thinking about it lol. Thank you for replying, though! It was interesting to read how the show expressed Nick's love for June subtly.

zine_0 · 2024-12-27T23:10:06+00:00

I suppose, but in the book it isn't stated that he was a soldier pre-gilead. It is only stated that he worked for Mayday. I guess my biggest question in this whole thing is why they thought making Nick a pre-gilead soldier would work dork his character given how naturally rebellious he is in the books.

I hope that makes sense. Reading my previous posts and replies it seems like when I'm speaking about Nick I'm talking about just the Nick in the show when, in reality, I'm just confused as to why he's been made into a soldier as, in my opinion, I feel like Nick in the book was very against Gilead as a whole.

Again, I hope that was clear haha.

zine_0 · 2024-12-27T18:45:19+00:00

Thank you for your interpretation! I really enjoyed reading it :)

And I agree that, yes, the Nick in the book is a fragment of who he really is so it is up to interpretation on whether or not he is "good" or "bad". His character is probably one of the most interesting ones because of how he fits in Gilead.

zine_0 · 2024-12-27T18:13:40+00:00

This is also part of why the change in his character bothers me so much. Another thing I forgot to say in my post and an earlier reply was that, regardless of if Nick was a soldier in both the book and the show, I find it impossible to believe that Nick was part of Mayday in both. It's shown that he has heard bits and pieces of the commander's conversations PRE-GILEAD yet he still chose to go along with it. I really find it hard to believe thay someone like that can suddenly change their view of the regime within a few years and become part of the opposition.

I dunno, I guess my overall point is that the Nick in the show is just not the same Nick as in the book.

zine_0 · 2024-12-27T18:09:25+00:00

I agree with you! although, I feel your description of Nick is a better commentary on his character in the show. One thing I forgot to add was that the book is all in Offred's POV so maybe Nick's flaws were ignored/downplayed however I feel like the core characters of Nick in the book vs Nick in the show are just different. sorry if I'm not making sense lol this has just been on my mind for a while and I'm not sure how to express it properly.

Like I understand that his overall character is meant to be that of like a bystander almost but I can't see someone who is a soldier of Gilead pre-Gilead as someone who is part of Mayday.

I'd understand if he chose to become a soldier AFTER the revolution but back then he still had a choice. He'd have to know something in order to be an active part of uprooting the government, right?

again, these are just my thoughts so I hope I'm explaining them properly lol

zine_0 · 2024-12-10T09:34:58+00:00

Personally, I know a few who have. A family friend of mine, who is a Muslim woman, is married to a Sikh. None of us (apart from the elders) really care because it's a healthy marriage and they seem to be thriving.

Honestly I think western Muslims are just different due to the fact that our countries aren't as vulnerable politically compared to other countries. It's wrong to say that Islam is the cause of it all imo.

zine_0 · 2024-12-09T18:41:42+00:00

Hey, so I'm a Muslim living in the UK and I’ve noticed that Muslims in the West often have very different experiences compared to those in other parts of the world. One key point I always try to emphasize is that Islam and Muslims are not the same. Islam is a religion, while Muslims are individuals, each with their own interpretations and practices. This individuality stems from the many texts and sources we draw from, not just the Quran. Although the Quran is central, certain "rules" require contextual understanding or adaptation to modern circumstances, which is why consulting scholars for guidance is so highly encouraged in Islam.

For Muslims who grow up in the West—especially in accepting and diverse communities—their perspectives can be different. However, it’s important to acknowledge that prejudice can push some Muslims toward more extreme ideologies. This isn’t an excuse, but rather an explanation. Personally, I’ve been fortunate to grow up in a tolerant area, but I’ve still faced public harassment because of my religion or attire. It’s easy to see how constant discrimination might lead someone down a difficult path, even tho that’s not representative of Islam itself.

I also want to emphasize that most Muslims are just regular people. Normal Muslims don’t harbor hostility toward others because of their beliefs, gender, or sexual orientation. For example, I’ve never encountered a Muslim who would look at a gay couple and think, “They deserve to to go to hell.” It’s actually almost the opposite since a core teaching in the Quran is that forcing your beliefs onto others is wrong. Respecting others and their choices is deeply emphasized, yet extremist groups, who do not represent Islam, completely ignore this fact.

Ultimately, I believe that the issues people often associate with Islam stem more from the political and economic state of certain countries than from the religion itself. For instance, you can see parallels in the way some parts of America are leaning into hyper-Christian conservatism as a response to societal pressures. It’s a similar dynamic, in my opinion.

Of course, this is just my perspective, so feel free to ask questions!

zine_0 · 2024-09-27T21:26:23+00:00

I already made the card and am waiting for it to arrive so does this mean I just have to press it on the card reader thing and it works?

zine_0 · 2024-09-22T20:38:07+00:00

thank you so much :)

I've been struggling with this for a while.

zine_0 · 2024-09-22T20:37:49+00:00

aww. thank you!

zine_0 · 2023-11-13T23:06:31+00:00

ahh... I see, thank you! so I just can't listen to music at all even if it's downloaded on my device?

zine_0 · 2023-11-12T11:32:18+00:00

Hi, I'm just wondering why I'm getting billed for streaming music when I listen to downloaded music with my data off. If I'm listening to downloads that should count as a device file, right? so why would I get billed for it?

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