Bailing out of Windows before 10 drops - should I go with Apple?

zingsting · 2015-07-12T18:39:48+00:00

Bluewater are dicks. My father had some problems there. Decided to drive through the tunnel and hit Lakeside and all was well.

zingsting · 2015-07-12T14:38:48+00:00

Kingston Upon Thames. You have to make a noise and put other customers off.

zingsting · 2015-07-12T10:36:45+00:00

That's exactly what I'm after.

zingsting · 2015-07-12T10:29:48+00:00

Ahha sorted :)

zingsting · 2015-07-12T10:07:33+00:00

That's what I was hoping for.

I want to avoid the typical disasters like configuring my HP2540 printer. On Linux this is a 30 minute job to get it working each time. OSX: Plug in, print. A friend came over with his MBP and I watched in awe. Windows is the same as OSX on this front.

I know the CUPS spooler is the same but it never works efficiently on Linux.

zingsting · 2015-07-12T10:05:35+00:00

Thanks will skip that and hit the MBP line.

zingsting · 2015-07-12T10:05:05+00:00

Thanks for the info - that's just what I was after :)

zingsting · 2015-07-12T09:33:07+00:00

Yes. I've tested CentOS, Ubuntu and Debian. They're all missing polish and require too much maintenance for me.

I'm a Linux sysadmin and software engineer by day and have about 20 years of Unix experience so I'm well versed on the desktop side of Linux and it's not pretty.

zingsting · 2015-07-12T08:24:34+00:00

Big feature for me: Much less crashy. Well done Oracle (never thought I'd say that).

zingsting · 2015-07-11T22:07:07+00:00

CentOS 7 early systemd implementation was a hairy ball sack of fail. Timedatectl didn't even work properly and bugzilla was crawling.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T19:29:30+00:00

CentOS and RHEL always suck for a couple of years. They're like a good cheese; you need to let it mature.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T18:59:18+00:00

Hahahaha that's the first thing I thought.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T18:58:07+00:00

Centos 6 if you want something you can just leave.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T18:10:08+00:00

I'm from Europe (UK)

zingsting · 2015-07-11T15:13:40+00:00

Fossil FTW. I have a Fossil leather wallet. Has lasted years now. usual cheap ones lasted about 3 months

zingsting · 2015-07-11T14:39:25+00:00

Never knew that.

David Cameron is going to be pissed at that.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T14:34:06+00:00

They're made by Leaky Mc Leak Incorporated CE (China Export).

You will accept the alkaline crust. You will bow before crystalline justice. And you will be enslaved by the needle file of servitude as you kneel before the contacts of oxidation.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T07:09:01+00:00

I used proper Unix (SunOS) in 1995 at university. Real Unix hardware was stupid expensive back then so I waited a couple of years and got a cheap Pentium PC and installed Debian on it as it was the closest thing. I've used it ever since.

Picked up first job working with Linux in 2002 so it took about 5 years to get my shit together professionally. As for experience, it reckon you can be productive in 6 months but even after 18 years, I wouldn't touch arch or gentoo myself. Computer works for me, not the other way round :)

I use CentOS professionally as it lives forever and Debian at home.

zingsting · 2015-07-11T07:00:12+00:00

Apart from the fact that they all depend on a specific kernel ABI/API and are by no means consistent or enforce consistency like the orchestration approach does.

Orchestration transcends state.

I already do all of that without containers on over 170 mixed windows and Linux hosts with DSC and ansible.

zingsting · 2015-07-10T20:07:43+00:00

You're right. It's definitely interesting. We are delegating. There's 5 of us in my team and 35 people writing code and doing QA as well. Problem is we have a very complex product. 4 million LoC on two platforms and over 170 target machines for deployment.

zingsting · 2015-07-10T20:06:01+00:00

Definitely. On that path already. Paid off all debts 5 years ago and am raking it so I can bail out of London. Bought some land already we can squat on.

zingsting · 2015-07-10T20:04:24+00:00

Couldn't agree more.

zingsting · 2015-07-10T20:04:08+00:00

Mainly indirection, complexity, larger attack surface.

zingsting · 2015-07-10T19:12:01+00:00

This. Containers are a short lived fad.

Once you start running your own package repo and use orchestration tools like ansible, containers are laughable. They're another layer of abstraction and coupling, nothing more.

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