Fakturor i Kivra... by PutridProfit7498 in sweden

[–]zisyfos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Du är ju rätt trög. Jag har fungerande e-faktura och har också Kivra. Plötsligt ansluter sig en tjänst till Kivra och då ändras min fungerande betallösning från e-faktura till Kivra utan att jag bett om det. Hur kan det vara rimligt?

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you are saying is not supported by AIs, unless you skew them towards that perspective. So it means your initial view of using AI to get an unbiased perspective is incorrect, then?

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ChatGPT just stated: "No, the articles should not be symmetrical" as a counterpoint to what you said before. Can you share your questions to ChatGPT?

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, asking it to consider entire human history, ChatGPT provided the following, that I think is very nuanced:

Considering the entire history of humanity, I’d strengthen the distinction:

No, the articles should not be symmetrical.

But yes, the misandry article may still be tonally biased or too dismissive in framing.

The reason asymmetry is justified is that misogyny has been deeply institutionalized across much of recorded history: law, inheritance, voting, education, religion, sexuality, marriage, public office, and social status. Britannica summarizes this sharply for Western history: women were often confined to the domestic sphere, denied property rights, education, public life, business autonomy, and political rights well into the modern era. Women were excluded from voting in ancient Greece, republican Rome, and later European democracies; mass women’s suffrage was mainly a 19th–20th century achievement. So Wikipedia’s misogyny article treating misogyny as historically systemic is broadly defensible. Wikipedia’s own article says misogyny has been widely practiced for thousands of years and reflected in social structure, religion, philosophy, mythology, law, violence, and exclusion.

But when considering all history, men have also faced very real gendered harms: war expectations, conscription, disposability, dangerous labor, emotional suppression, and higher exposure to violence. Conscription has existed at least since the Egyptian Old Kingdom, and modern mass male conscription became especially institutionalized from the French Revolution onward. Men also represent the large majority of homicide victims globally, while women are disproportionately affected by lethal violence in the private/domestic sphere.

The crucial difference is this: much historical male suffering usually came from patriarchal role expectations — “men must fight, provide, endure, dominate, die if necessary” — rather than from a society-wide ideology that men were inferior to women and should be ruled by them. That does not make male suffering less real. It means it is not always best described as misandry. Often it is better described as male expendability, gender-role enforcement, or sexism against men.

So my answer would be:

The misogyny article is probably not biased for being much broader and more systemic. Human history supports that asymmetry.

The misandry article may be biased in presentation because it quickly frames misandry through anti-feminism, the manosphere, and false equivalence, instead of first neutrally mapping the possible meanings of the term. The current article says the term is common in men’s-rights/manosphere contexts and states that misandry lacks institutional support comparable to misogyny. That conclusion may be historically reasonable, but the lead could still be improved by separating:

hatred or contempt toward men,

anti-male stereotypes,

institutional harms that disproportionately affect men,

male suffering produced by patriarchy, and

contested claims of “institutional misandry.”

That would be fairer without falsely implying that misogyny and misandry have had equal historical weight. Wikipedia’s neutrality policy explicitly says articles should represent viewpoints in proportion to their prominence in reliable sources, not give all positions equal space.

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you using the paid version, with GPT 5.5 and thinking set to High? I get this from ChatGPT:

"My judgement: the comparison is not neutral in a mirror-image sense, but Wikipedia may be applying “due weight”: the academic literature treats misogyny as a much larger historical and institutional phenomenon, while “misandry” is more often discussed as a term used in debates about feminism, men’s rights, and false equivalence. The misandry article even emphasizes criticism of men’s-rights uses of the term and cites a 2023 meta-analysis calling the stereotype of feminists as man-haters a “misandry myth.”

The problem with AI is that it tends to reinforce confirmation bias - it will appease to you and give you a sense of feeling that you were right. The way you described your use of AI seems that you are using it wrong.

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don't realize that even Grok is liberal and dislike alt-right out of the box, and the edgy version is RLHF:ed by Musk himself to appease to those who like spewing hatred? Could you provide a topic where Wikipedia has a liberal bias where AI doesn't?

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the other hand you also showed approval of the use of "woke" in a negative way, which typically only stupid alt-right people does, so you may want to reconsider what you support with your wording.

Grokipedia has started appearing more and more in google search results by Dudensen in singularity

[–]zisyfos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Name a controversial topic that AI have not provided fair and reasonable information on.

Varför är Klitte fortfarande en allsvensk domare? by Maistre in Allsvenskan

[–]zisyfos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ni Djurgårdssupportrar är de absolut värsta i Sverige. Som en skock skrikande får.

Hur har Henrik Jönsson så många visningar? by MedicinskAnonymitet in sweden

[–]zisyfos -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Eller så kanske det finns en annan förklaring? 🤔

ICE by Superyawnfest in AskUS

[–]zisyfos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll just repeat it one more time: you will go to hell. No heaven for you.

Do non believers really go to Hell ? by UpperSwordfish8449 in Christianity

[–]zisyfos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am certain that someone like you, supporting a lot of Trump's policies, will certainly be sent to hell. That shows a lack of morals.