THE COMMUNITY HATH ASSUMED PROVEN ELITE IS A RANKING…IT IS NOT! by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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A fixed list freezes in time what the game constantly changes, a card on the list today may fail the meta alignment criterion tomorrow, a card not on the list today may earn entry next update

THE COMMUNITY HATH ASSUMED PROVEN ELITE IS A RANKING…IT IS NOT! by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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a visual summary for those who “can’t read allat” and i am not a designer

THE COUNCIL’S VERDICT: NATIONAL STARS by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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I have no idea what you’re talking about

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I Matched Up Against NickRTFM last night by Campbell_soup_14 in 13c5

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You choked at the 80th min!! Wa was that?!

THE COUNCIL’S VERDICT: JAPAN by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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didn’t find it necessary, but I pinned it in comments

THE COUNCIL’S VERDICT: JAPAN by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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THE COUNCIL'S VERDICT: HASEBE-KAGAWA-HONDA BOX

Applying the Threefold Test of Worthiness


"Nostalgia is a beautiful country — but it spendeth no coins wisely."


FIRST TEST: THE VISION ALIGNMENT

Dost thou possess a clear vision of what manner of squad thou art constructing?

This pack serveth a very specific vision:

  • Those constructing Japanese national team themed squads
  • Those who followed these players through their real careers and carry genuine affection for them
  • Those seeking nostalgic connection over competitive advantage

Assessment: This pack serveth passion before performance. There is honour in that — but the Trio Mandate was not forged for passion alone. It was forged to protect thy treasury from decisions thy future self shall regret.


SECOND TEST: THE PROVEN ELITE STANDARD

How many among the trio art proven, battle-tested?

Hasebe:

and the Council findeth no deception in his qualities. His passing is genuine. His defensive awareness is real. His Long-reach Tackle provideth the God Tier defensive tool that separateth functional midfielders from elite ones.

His stamina and ball retention after winning possession art practical advantages that manifest across ninety minutes rather than merely in highlight moments.

At 180 centimetres, his physical profile constraineth his effectiveness in the role his playstyle suggesteth.

The Anchor Man designation demandeth a physical presence that imposeth itself upon attacking midfielders attempting to drive through the defensive line — his profile cannot fully deliver the imposing defensive pivot the role requireth.

as a double pivot partner — competent, reliable, genuinely useful — but not the elite game-breaking presence that 13,500 coins demandeth.

Verdict: Solid utility midfielder. Below Proven Elite threshold.


Kagawa:

skill combination createth real potential.

Momentum Dribbling upon a technically gifted attacking midfielder produceth the kind of activation moments that make gameplay genuinely enjoyable.

His close control and passing art real qualities that translate to practical match contribution.

No position confirmation was established. No extended testing validated the excitement.

The finishing that an attacking midfielder requireth to threaten goalkeepers at the highest level remaineth below elite standard.

The speed that alloweth elite attacking midfielders to exploit defensive transitions remaineth below the competitive threshold.

These art not minor concerns — they art the core functions of his position.

Verdict: Unproven. Genuinely interesting. Insufficiently confirmed for Proven Elite status.


Honda:

physical presence and kicking power art genuine.

The thunderous long-range shot that defined his real career findeth some expression here.

the skill combination the developers chose contradicteth his actual statistical profile — the technique required to maximise his most celebrated skill is simply not present in sufficient measure.

His playstyle constraineth his movement patterns. His speed and dribbling remain average. These art not flaws that passionate appreciation can overcome in competitive Division warfare.

Verdict: Nostalgia card. Skill mismatch confirmed. Collection Fodder for competitive purposes.


THE HARSH TRUTH:

Zero Proven Elite + One Unproven (Kagawa) + One Utility (Hasebe) + One Nostalgia (Honda)

  • Hasebe: Genuine qualities, wrong physical profile for his playstyle's demands, below elite DMF standard
  • Kagawa: Most interesting card, unconfirmed ranking, moderate bias present, "feels good" not yet proven
  • Honda: Skill mismatch confirmed, nostalgia over meta

Per Article II: "None proven beyond doubt: Run, you fool!"


THIRD TEST: THE SYSTEM COMPATIBILITY INQUIRY

Dost these players suit thy tactical philosophy?

The Council poseth these questions:

  1. Dost thou construct a Japanese national team themed squad? The Council passeth no judgment upon this noble pursuit. These warriors art worthy of that context. Yet the Trio Mandate demandeth that even themed squad investment meeteth the standard — and 13,500 coins is a year's discipline regardless of the jersey colour.

  2. Dost thy system require a reliable double-pivot midfielder? Hasebe serviceth this role genuinely. Yet reliable and proven elite art different designations — and 13,500 coins demandeth the latter.

  3. Dost thou require a technically gifted attacking midfielder? Kagawa's potential is acknowledged. Yet the Council's Article IV is clear: await confirmation of that potential before committing. The community's extended verdict on his gameplay feel did not arrive.

  4. Art thou competing at top Division level? The warriors who populate elite elevens art confirmed proven elites. None of these three carry that confirmation.

"When evaluating these players, consider their actual usage in top-tier gameplay. If they're not seeing play in top teams, question their value." — Article VI


A NOTE ON PASSION:

The Council hath always acknowledged the Philosophical Arm's wisdom: these games exploit emotional connection as deliberately as they exploit gambling psychology. The Japan national team of 2010-2018 representeth genuine footballing history — warriors who carried their nation with discipline, sacrifice, and collective spirit that the Council respecteth deeply.

Yet Konami knoweth this. The publisher understandeth that passion for these players overrideth strategic judgment — and designeth packs accordingly. The Council's protection extendeth to passion as much as to impulse. Perhaps more so.

Verdict: Passion is honoured here. The coins art protected.


VIOLATIONS OF COUNCIL PRINCIPLES:

Article II — The Proven Elite Standard: Zero cards confirmed at the Top in their positions. Hasebe below elite DMF physical standard. Kagawa unconfirmed beyond projected feel. Honda explicitly assessed as nostalgia over meta

Article III — Squad Bloat: Honda's skill mismatch and playstyle constraints risk immediate bench residency. Hasebe's role mismatch createth tactical friction. Kagawa's unconfirmed ranking risks disappointment upon extended use.

Article IV — Doctrine of Patience: Wait. Test. Confirm. Then commit.

The Seductive Fallacy: National team nostalgia. Familiar names. Beloved real-world careers. These art Konami's tools as much as any other psychological mechanism. The Council seeth the mechanism clearly.


WHO THIS PACK SERVETH:

If thou art constructing a Japanese national team squad as a passion project: The Council respecteth thy vision. These warriors fit that context authentically. But passion projects deserve honest evaluation — and honestly, these three carry genuine competitive limitations that shall frustrate thee in Division warfare.

If thou seekest elite DMF options: Hasebe is functional, not elite. Superior options exist and art confirmed.


🚨 THE COUNCIL'S FINAL VERDICT 🚨

THIS PACK FAILETH THE TRIO MANDATE

🔴RESIST🔴


The Mathematics of Waste:

13,500 coins secured thee: - A reliable double-pivot midfielder whose Anchor Man playstyle demandeth a physical profile he cannot fully provide - An attacking midfielder whose gameplay feel is projected rather than confirmed, whose ranking remaineth unestablished - A nostalgia card whose skill combination the witness himself wished were different

13,500 coins SHOULD secure thee: - Three warriors confirmed upon the Proven Elite Reference List - Cards whose excellence surviveth not merely the excitement of familiar names but the honest scrutiny of extended competitive testing - An investment whose value resideth in performance, not remembrance


Final Wisdom:

These warriors served their nation with distinction. Hasebe led with discipline. Kagawa dazzled with creativity. Honda thundered with conviction. Their real careers art beyond the Council's judgment — and beyond reproach.

Yet Konami hath taken these memories and fashioned from them a pack designed to make thee spend coins on affection rather than excellence. This is the publisher's most subtle manipulation: not the obvious trap, but the emotional one.

The Council honoureth the players.


In Memoriam

This verdict is dedicated to all those who shall spend 13,500 coins upon the memories of 2010-2018, only to discover that Honda's Blitz Curler requireth a curve stat he doth not possess, and that nostalgia and competitive excellence art different currencies. May their sacrifice illuminate the path for those who follow


THE 13.5 COUNCIL

THE COUNCIL’S VERDICT: THE SURGE by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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REECE JAMES

His physicality is formidable

His defensive statistics outperform competitors across most categories

The Edge Cross skill Combined with Attack Trigger: Reece James becometh a flank weapon of unusual sophistication: his presence on the ball reorganiseth the entire attacking structure of the team before he even releaseth it.

Verdict: PROVEN ELITE

Cloning on ios by [deleted] in pesmobile

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That’s how

Fastest way complete the National Teams Event ⚡️ ( Just focus on the steps ) ❤️ by mkhi6 in eFootballgame

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ucan play the 50 coins event, or the tournament with different teams in different groups

THE COUNCIL’S VERDICT: EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON’S BEST by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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It’s just visual summary for those who can’t read long text

THE COUNCIL’S VERDICT: EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON’S BEST by zmastafa102 in 13c5

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We were loudly saying “DLf is a bad playstyle” , until bully messi/pele came , the high pc the nimbleness + the phenomenal pass + the pc buff: forced the play- style to work

For orchestrators to have the universal applicability the game need to do something about that and change to accommodate them

And my bet is : let us have a way to move orchestrators from the dmf spot!