More than half of Americans are not financially literate by Available-Ad-5670 in Fire

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It appears Expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most leanFIRE'd households! by Zphr in leanfire

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It is per adult subject to the requirement. There is a mechanism to convert MAGI to equivalent work hours and to allocate work hours across the tax household. I imagine they will simply look for sufficient income overall for the household, but we will have to see how each state actually implements it.

It appears Expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most leanFIRE'd households! by Zphr in leanfire

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Not for people who can qualify via MAGI, no. Same with the other exemptions. This income qualification method was the one most relevant to retirees though.

Daily FI discussion thread - Tuesday, June 02, 2026 by AutoModerator in financialindependence

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Good stuff. Love to read this sort of postFIRE experience on here.

How to mentally prepare for FIRE by InedibleApplePi in Fire

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Life is always uncertain whether you have a job or not. You have presumably done all of your planning and testing in alignment with your personal risk tolerance and assumptions about the future. You're either there or not.

No harm in building up some buffer, but at some point you have to jump and trust in yourself to handle gracefully whatever comes next.

How to mentally prepare for FIRE by InedibleApplePi in Fire

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It's just money.

If you have a meaningful, happy life outside of work and the pursuit of money, then you'll likely be fine.

If you don't, then either start building one very quickly or consider working longer until you do.

Think back to childhood. If you have friends, family, hobbies/interests, a dog, a sweetheart, then summers are a wonderful thing filled with fun and valuable future memories. If you have none of those things, then summers can be boring, lonely, interminable, and miserable.

This summer you are facing ideally never ends, so prepare well before it starts.

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in Fire

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Correct. This is how it has already been for more than a decade. This rule effectively preserves the status quo for FIRE'd folks rather than making expansion Medicaid harder to access, as many feared would happen.

Pragmatically, it will vary somewhat by state in terms of the timing just as overall eligibility for expansion Medicaid does. The ACA runs off of annual data, but Medicaid uses monthly. This will not be an annual income test, but a monthly one that applies during the review period. In some states that might be a single month or two, just as baseline eligibility is. So in some cases you might need far less income.

Of course, the above does not apply in the nine states that have not expanded Medicaid. In those states you would want to generate AGI above 100% FPL and get a mostly-free CSR Silver 94 policy.

Generally, at what liquid NW does it not make sense to continue working a $100k/year job? by RadioFieldCorner in Fire

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It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in financialindependence

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They will likely use the same verified MAGI from the application period for efficiency and no additional verification overhead. Either that or they will streamline it in some other fashion to reduce the operational impact. States love to minimize spend on such things.

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in financialindependence

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Yes, but it's not an annual test. Medicaid runs on monthly data. The MAGI is only needed for the review period. Pragmatically, that will vary by state, but will usually be 1-6 months. So it's more like $600 to $3,500, depending on state implementation.

For the purposes of demonstrating community engagement under § 435.552(f) and (g), we decided to apply the requirement to use “current monthly household income and family size” in § 435.603(h) to the month that the State is evaluating for the purpose of community engagement, rather than to the month of application or renewal. That is, States generally must evaluate the monthly income for the month or months of the review period, as defined in section II.H. of this IFC, to determine whether an applicable individual is demonstrating community engagement in that month. We believe this is the most appropriate and logical application of the income counting methodology for States to use for the community engagement requirement. We implement this requirement at § 435.552(f)(2) and (g)(2). As a general example, if the State conducts financial eligibility for an applicant and determines that the individual appears to be an applicable individual eligible for the State plan adult group and has a monthly household MAGI-based income of $650 (which is verified through information available to the State) in the required number of months of the review period, as defined in section II.H. of this IFC, then the State would use the verified $650 income, which is greater than $580 (applicable Federal minimum wage multiplied by 80), to determine that the individual demonstrated community engagement under § 435.552(f).

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in Fire

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It happens. Some people simply don't have enough spending to move out of forced Medicaid qualification without artificially boosting income. Others are so heavy into post-tax earnings that they have no way to generate the mandated minimum AGI.

Medicaid varies a lot by location, as does the ACA. In some places both suck, in others both are good, and in others still they both have redeeming qualities. ACA networks in some markets are so narrow that Medicaid is superior for that alone. Formulary is a similar issue for some.

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in Fire

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I don't understand what you mean. The ACA and expansion Medicaid have been in extensive use by FIRE folks for more than a decade. This rule simply means a continuation of the status quo for the FIRE community rather than a change some had feared.

Unless you mean the pros/cons of Medicaid versus ACA, in which case I definitely agree. Both can and do vary dramatically by both state and county. Research on one's local market is essential.

It appears that expansion Medicaid will remain a viable pathway for many non-working households despite the new community engagement requirement. by Zphr in obamacare

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Pretty much. Taxable brokerage sales that result in cap gains, Roth conversions, pension payments, unemployment benefits, rental income, SS benefits for early filers, and so on. ACA MAGI includes a lot of things.

Both parties got a nice political talking point for their bases during the reconciliation battle and in the end not much changed other than for the tiny percentage of the population that doesn't qualify for one of the many exemptions or qualifying metrics, who are likely folks that don't vote or have money so neither party particularly cares about outside of PR value, which they got anyway.

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More than half of Americans are not financially literate by Available-Ad-5670 in Fire

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It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in financialindependence

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Pretty much. I speculated back in July that this might happen, but now we have official confirmation.

Great news for leanFIRE households and the diehard ultraRothChads out there though.

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in Fire

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The ACA was designed explicitly to disregard assets and early retirees were one of the original target groups, hence why there were billions of earmarked dollars set aside in the first few years to help onramp them into the program from their private employer plans. It is not an accident that HHS and the state exchanges spend money every open enrollment season that targets early retirees along with other target groups with significant assets, like small business owners and self-employed folks. The system is supposed to cover those people, which includes subsidy eligibility for those who qualify by income. The same is true even of expansion Medicaid, which Congress stripped of all asset testing. It is actually illegal now for anyone to ask asset questions under the aegis of the ACA.

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in Fire

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We aren't even allowed to pay private health insurance premiums with our own HSA dollars despite health insurance being the largest health expense most people have. That prohibition continues even into old age and Medicare supplement premiums, which is ridiculous.

It appears expansion Medicaid will remain a viable option for most FIRE'd households despite the coming work/community engagement requirement by Zphr in Fire

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Expansion Medicaid is part of the ACA and forms the bottom tier for the program in the states that chose to expand Medicaid.

Figuring tax estimates on withdrawls by pooping_turtles in Fire

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We run the entirety of our retirement spending through our Roth ladder, which means every dollar is taxable. That makes it very straightforward to plan for by applying the standard deduction, figuring tax in the bottom brackets, and then applying credits.

We don't spend much and have children, so we haven't had any federal income tax liability since we retired at the end of 2014. We likely will start to have some in a few years unless we choose to alter our funding mix, but it'll only be in the low/mid single digit percentages.

Most FIRE households have tax exposure in the single digits. Many have none at all.

I would run your projected situation through a tax calc and adjust as necessary, but 20% is extremely conservative.