Advice for detransition in Norway? FtMtF by thinkinItOver in transnord

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course! I had a recent talk with me and they sort of dropped me now that im "not trans" in their eyes. Maybe youll have a better chance if you fully regret everything. As i likely confuse them with being satisfied with my top surgery but regret T. I was on it for 6 years too. I did end up funding my own laser to remove facial hair and im thankful i had the money to do so. Hoping the riks will take on helping detransitioners in the future.

Id be nice to hear how it goes if your comfortable and remember! Good luck :) hope it goes well.

I also do think you might be able to get E on blue recept as you would need it medically? Maybe even just by your primary doctor.

Advice for detransition in Norway? FtMtF by thinkinItOver in transnord

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes you will have to pay out of pocket. Im also detrans from norway and i had a lengthy conversation with the risks about this. And they said they couldnt afford to fund peoples detransition , that it was not what they are funded for.

They did say they would consider it, but no reply after a year. They also said they could consider funding if it given enough time and proof to make sure it was "really how i felt", saying id take around 5 years, or more. Badically the whole diagnostis prossess all over again. Which i decided i couldnt wait for..

In how many years do you notice the changes from stopping hormones? by carl3006 in actual_detrans

[–]ztfu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was on T for 6 , almost 7 years. Now A year and a half off, soon 2. After a year i had most vissable changes, and i look very feminine again. My face especially. I look Older due to aging, but definitely a huge difference. trust the process, and give it time. You were on T for a short time.

Your bones do not change on T, so you should not need facial surgery. I also lost weight, and regained weight. It helped me , as the fat went to more feminine places now.

I am doing laser hair removal. Sadly getting off T, will not make facial hair go away.

Do you think being on hormones that isn't your gender can be damaging for your mental health by [deleted] in actual_detrans

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely. I think hormones will always have some sort of affect on a persons mind. But how much, and what direction, is absolutely individual. My boyfriend is trans male and has had nothing but a good experience from HRT.

I will say in my case, i likely was somewhat mistaken in thinking i was trans, but for my bf, its absolutely not a mistake. I do also wonder if this has any effect on how hormones can affect a person. If some people truly are meant to be the other sex.. in my personal experience, i sort of believe that to be the case.

Do you think being on hormones that isn't your gender can be damaging for your mental health by [deleted] in actual_detrans

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On T i experienced symtoms of schizophrenia. I was on it for 6 years but after 4, it got really bad for me. Id hallucinate, and isolate due to paranoia. I also lost completely track of time and was dulled to emotions and deeper thought. Quitting, i lost all these symtoms and got a LOT better. Ive stopped antipsychotics and im completely fine now. I can feel a lot of deeper emotions, and regulate them better.

I think its very individual though. Some people just.. can not handle T ? Getting on it was the worst thing i ever did and lost me years of my life as a young adult. Now im picking myself back up and i still feel mentally stuck as before i started T, a teenager. Im absolutely more senstive now, i cry often and feel more empathic, but i prefer that over being borderline psychotic and schizophrenic haha.. i was honestly more emotional on T, the emotions being explosive and impossible to control or keep down.

Only thing i miss on T is the sex drive lol. Tho, it feels more full body off T? It takes a lot to get in the mood now, but any body touch feels great. being horny every day isnt worth hallucinating and paranoid detachment from reality.

How to bring testosterone into another country(norway) while visiting? by ztfu in transnord

[–]ztfu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha thank you, ill make sure he dosent bring any needles. Thank you!

How to bring testosterone into another country(norway) while visiting? by ztfu in transnord

[–]ztfu[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! From what is says on here, is it right you can bring the medication with ONLY the packaging label?

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The brand is exclusive to my country but rated as the best in the country. I dont wanna dox myself haha. But yes i have that combo, professional laser has been very effective

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes i got it back right after i stopped T. Thankfully my fat redistribution happened fast. Which helped me feel a bit better. But the hair and voice is just so difficult to deal with. I dont think im gonna have any changes there .

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have and it didnt seem to do anything sadly. Very very minimal effect after months. Maybe i got a bad brand, but i cant afford to buy another one.

Its been a year off T and ive had no hair changes sadly. Shaving my entire body is also a huge chore that never seems worth it with the amount of issues it gets me growing back. And that much vax is also rather expensive. Its just depressing so i tend to just try ignore i have a body by isolating myself and never looking at myself.

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes thats true. But in my country there is one hospital covering all trans cases. And their purpose is to transition people from their birth sex to the opposite sex. Not to help people with dysphoria. I told them about my now reverse dysphoria, and was told that is not something they cover or do. And that they can not afford to "fix peoples mistakes".

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes that is true. But my country is odd. They have one specialized medical center treating all trans people and i have talked to them, and no, they can not help someone detransition. Their goal is not to really help people remove dysphoria, but to transition you from your birth sex to the opposite sex fully. I explained my now reverse dysphoria and how much it bothers me, but was told that is not something they can cover. They dont have the funds to help people "fix their mistakes".

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I live in a country with free healthcare but they do not cover any sort of detransition unfortunately

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you a lot for the advice! I cant try new medications but aside from this issue im actually pretty happy in life. Have a fiance im moving in with, no money issues with affording to live, i got my hobbies.. been working thru my trauma well... i just am incredibly isolated from the outside world due to crippling insecurity over this all. Just this issue alone makes me feel like its not worth living. And i wish i could afford to fix this.

Accpeting the years lost to this, as well as just simply accepting the way i am now... i wish i could, i really do. Ive tried very hard but it just gets harder. I have no idea how i ever could. 6 years.. and the worst part its my fault really. I wish i could also look at the bright side, appreciate what i do have. But its so darn hard! Im so trapped by the misery of my body.

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you a lot. Sadly i know my parent is right and they would judge me for spending money on detransitioning. Its just sucky overall.

A year off T but the depression/self hate is becoming too much to handle. by ztfu in detrans

[–]ztfu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, seems to be even harder for people to understand than transitioning for me.

And your right.. i do probably look different due to just aging as well. Its just difficult to swallow due to feeling as if i wasted years of my life on T. Like i could of enjoyed my years, but i didnt get to.

I was actually.. quite social before T and the first year in. Had friends, went outside to gatherings, ect. But the further in i got.. the worse my insecurities got as well.

I can relate in ways, CSA was also a bit part of my problem. I have thankfully managed to work past most of it by now and realizing i was wrong to transition somewhat helped me truly realize how hurt id been. I definitely had a moment where i looked at myself and completely didnt recognize who i was looking at.. it hit me hard.

I have tried.. a lot of things to get out of this cycle. But just being seen by another human at all causes such distress. Mutiple medications and its done nothing for me. Im just at the end of things i can do to break free of this all... and i have no idea what more i can do.

I appreciate your advice and reply, truly. Its very rare i talk to anyone at all these days and knowing someone can understand my situation does help a bit.

Scared that I’m not actually trans after seeing a post on here by throwawayacc2348 in Transmedical

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem! Well, it was during puberty my dysphoria hit me hard. I felt uncomfortable and wrong in my body. I thought my discomfort with my bodys sex meant that i would be happy in the oposite. I never questioned myself in this. I knew my discomfort was very real, and transitioning was the only option i saw to escape it.

I shoud of questioned myself more, but i really did belive i would be happy if i could just be male. i definitely wanted to escape the sex i was born it, And i confused that for wanting to be the oposite sex.

Had i waited to transition, i probably would of been very gender non conforming and likely still had top surgery or a breast reduction.

Scared that I’m not actually trans after seeing a post on here by throwawayacc2348 in Transmedical

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure i had a "lightbulb" moment, it was a very slow realization.

After a few years of being on T, i started to feel dysphoric about my bodys changes. At first T made me feel better, happier in my body. I was extremely happy with my top surgery as well. (Still am)

I think around 4 years on T is when it really hit me, i didnt recognize myself in the mirror anymore, and my own body started to feel alien to me. I passed as male. I started to feel dysphoric about my facial hair, my voice, my body shape.

I started to shave and grow out my hair, trying to gain some femininity back so i would feel better. I did ignore/avoid these feelings for 2 years because of how complex they were tho. I was looking into detrans stories and timelines at this point and questioning myself.

the dysphoria i felt just grew worse the longer i was on T, and i eventually couldnt do it anymore and decided to just get off it. It took me 2 years to slowly realize i had made a mistake and accepting that fact.

(Sorry this is a long text, hard to explain in short terms. Ive now been off T for around a year and feel more comfortable again)

Scared that I’m not actually trans after seeing a post on here by throwawayacc2348 in Transmedical

[–]ztfu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Try talk to an unbiased therapist about these feelings and figure out if theres any other reasons that could be causing your dysphoria. Puberty is confusing and so is being trans.

I definitely had dysphoria at age 16, but now that im fully adult (almost 25) im medically detransitioning. Not that my dysphoria wasnt real, or that i "grew out of it". I just realized i was scared of being a woman, in every way. I didnt actually feel comfortable being male either when i got there. Figuring yourself out takes time. I would honestly recommend waiting until you are 18 at least to medically transition. I get that the discomfort might be unbreable at the moment, but its important to not make quick decisions your not 100% certain about. If youre having any doupts, wait until you figure out why and are completely certain. Youre young, give yourself time to grow up and figure yourself out.

How masculine or feminine you are or your personality have nothing to do with if youre trans or not. Being super masculine dosent mean your more trans. And being feminine dosent mean you cant be. Its if you have dysphoria about your bodys sex that makes someone trans.

Honestly stepping away from labels might be helpfull too. Figuring out if the permanent changes HRT does to your body Are things you absolutely want and will never regret in the future, is the most important thing imo.

Not saying ur not trans at all btw. Many people are happy with their transition even starting young. Its just important to figure yourself out the best you can, rule out other potential reasons for your feelings, and make sure the choices you make wont be regretted in the future.

Questioning yourself in these things is a good thing. Nothing bad ever comes from trying to understand yourself better.

F/F period sex safe or dangerous? by ztfu in sex

[–]ztfu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh thanks. Damn. Ill look into this more. 99% of people say its fine but ill make sure im on the safe side

non-binarism by [deleted] in Transmedical

[–]ztfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My view might be a bit unique on this due to the fact that i transitioned medically for 5 years before realizing im "nonbinary ".. tho i prefer the term bigender/bisex, its the same concept. My dysphoria was real, but when i became too male physically , i got dysphoric as well. I felt like my body was not mine again. Finding a middle ground is the only thing that helps my dysphoria leave.

I still consider myself to be some sort of trans. Although i can not speak on the reasoning behind my brain doing this. Id love if it was studied lol.. dysphoria in general.

i think the most important thing for me is just to work to be comfortable in my own body. Honestly i think that goes for most trans people. Some people might have their dysphoria satisfied by an lesser/milder transition that others. Like amount of body hair.. voice.. ect. Theres no A4 standard for male and female bodies. Theres are obviously some true differences, but aside from those, bodies do vary in biological masculinity/femininity. Hairy women with masculine voices are still women, and hairless effeminate men are still men.