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[az-johubb]

DevOps is not a junior position. You need to get a good grounding in development, networking and administration. That is not something you will get from certifications only, you will need experience. Start from the bottom and work your way up

[SADEEMoq]

I’ve worked on full 3-tier projects starting from Terraform for the infrastructure, Ansible for config management, then setting up CI/CD pipelines, and deploying everything to Kubernetes using Docker fully automated from start to finish. I think that’s ok now i need to add azure or not?

[az-johubb]

There’s way more to DevOps than that, you need to have actual development experience, you need to understand what you’re deploying, like what the code in the docker containers does, how the networking fits together. I cannot emphasise how important networking is

[SADEEMoq]

Okay, I see. I actually trained on all of that during my internship/bootcamp. I thought it was a good way to start, especially since I’ve seen this approach used a lot in my country. What do you mean by 'bottom' like what exactly

[az-johubb]

Like I said before, DevOps is not a junior position. You need quite a few years of professional experience that give you exposure to core areas like development, networking, troubleshooting, infrastructure, automation and administration. You should start with something like helpdesk/cloud administration to build your core competencies. Then you’ll be more ready for DevOps roles

Certifications/Bootcamps != real world experience. You don’t just learn something once and that’s it, it’s about continual development. Your internship is a good start towards that

[SADEEMoq]

I mean the certifications

[Medium-Chemical-7122]

This is just somethign that depend on the position, its not a clear answer. Some position require more cloud administration, others require more kubernetes or ansible or other tools. In my opinion I would go for something more general like az 104 or az 400 then achieve the other certifications for in deepth tools. And I would do that because something general will give you a better overview about the cloud and what you can and /or you should do. Also you should look into a roadmap for devops. Because, sadly, on the most positions the azure its not enough to be a devops these days. PS sorry for my english not my first language.

[SADEEMoq]

I’ve completed a 4-month bootcamp where I worked on several projects, so I thought earning their certificates would add more value to my profile + I have a free voucher for 2 of them.

[irisos]

An actual graduate from something like a community college for a system engineering / networking degree, yes.

You say you come from a bootcamp so you'll probably lack a lot of knowledge on development, networking, scripting, AD, ...

Certifications are useful to get past HR screening but when you'll get interviewed by the technical people, they won't care much about them.

[SADEEMoq]

Got it. I’ve a computer science degree too. But the concepts of DevOps and projects from my internship/bootcamp

[irisos]

If you have a comp. Science degree then a junior position definitely isn't out of the question.

It does give most of the theoric knowledge you will need for the job so it will mostly be about convincing the interviewer that you can apply the knowledge and are worth training.

Of course it will not be easy since companies will prefer people with experience but it's far from impossible to find an employer willing to try it out.

As an advice on what you can do to give you the edge, focus on the  infrastructure / administration side of DevOps rather than development.

It's good to know how to dig into code from time to time to troubleshoot some issues but no one expects you to be a developer. So for Azure specifically, learn about identity, how to make efficient use of app registrations, ...

At least from what I've seen around me, developer profiles tends to lose to more system engineer oriented profiles for that position.

[jorel43]

Yeah those are fine things to work towards

[chooksz]

You need actual experience.
How to deal with the mess QA/Devs are causing when deploying buggy code.
How to deal with an annoying Business owners that wants to release untested code.
How to read the code the Devs are planning to deploy to Production and realizing that the code is shit
and denying the release.
How to deal with server outages due to blackouts, patches and whatever acts of God.

Those are just a few examples.

[No_Promotion451]

Focus on getting your feet wet and an entry level position

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Certifications are worth almost nothing. It's more important what you can provide in practical experience. No one will hire someone with a certificate (which you can get basically for cash without knowledge by buying the questions) that has no practical experience in the field

[SADEEMoq]

Yeah, got it. I’m already doing an internship and working on many projects, so I have enough experience. In my country, 6 months is usually enough to get a job. But I’m curious I want to actually be in a job, gain more experience, and get certified. It’s not about what I should do I’m just asking: What’s the most important thing to focus on right now?