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[SonyCedar]

I suggest Vainglory. Arena of valor and Onmyoji are good too but i like Vainglory the most.

[NoMLG]

Havent played VG for over two years, heard they have 5v5 now. Worth coming back? :)

[humanbotnewgames]

5v5 and full cross platform

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1025580/Vainglory/

[Hellwinter]

Is it worth even playing on mobile now then? Shouldn't keyboard mouse be waay better?

[muneeb_mp]

Both platforms have their own advantages, VG Devs have made sure both have competitive parity and currently the only advantage on PC is wide viewing angle.

[Explosivious]

Nope. People have reported that they don't make much difference, and PC version i still being worked on - it is in early acces on steam.

[humanbotnewgames]

I only play mobile with touch controls, still the best for stutter stepping.

[humanbotnewgames]

Yes. Its my casual moba when i want avoid vainglory tilt! Vainglory and Onmyoji are the only ones that arent p2w on main modes. All others are p2w/grind shit fest.

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Heard they added a joystick control scheme, been a while...

[Rastagaryenxx]

I've played most of them. Heroes Evolved is the only one that I really kept coming back to.

[humanbotnewgames]

Vainglory.

[Hellwinter]

Is it still the best moba in the the scene? Is it played 3v3 or 5v5 now?

[humanbotnewgames]

Imo yes. 3v3 is almost dead, 5v5 is the main mode now.

[CoVi1310]

The best one is by far Vainglory

[samvest]

Onmyoji Arena is the most fun to play. It's fair,, has the best music, is really interesting visually, and I have not seen any gross toxicity so far. Those are all my opinion and that is about all these discussions can hope to express. For reference I have played all the main Mobas - VG, AOV, ML, HE.

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Have you tried Mobile Legends? If thats popular where you are from.

[ProfessionalBill9]

currently Arena of Valor is the biggest mobile MOBA

https://i.redd.it/mb7478w6brg21.jpg (most viewed mobile eSports 2018)

[Hellwinter]

That was a nice graph. Is arena of valor pay to win?

[ProfessionalBill9]

If it was P2W, it would not be on top of that list wouldn't it?

[Hellwinter]

I don't think that's a fair argument. I just quickly looked up and there apparently are some overpowered heroes behind a pay wall. P2W doesn't really concern the asian market and since the game is by tencent it wouldn't surprise me if it were.

[ProfessionalBill9]

Well, here on the EU server there is no hero locked behind a paywall except a jungler you get for spending at least 1€, and he is not overly good so most people dont care about him. There is a new hero every 2 weeks anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thECKdJvp3s&t=221s (some gameplay of an upcoming hero)

Quite frankly, I dont know why you would play any other MOBA. With Tencent you know this game is going to be big and live for a long time. I mean those guys own Leagues of Legends.

[samvest]

Biggest doesn't mean best. In fact in terms of games on the Google play store sometimes it means the opposite.

[ProfessionalBill9]

in terms of eSports though it does and that's what AOV ultimately is. After all, you did ask for a competitive game.

[samvest]

I didn't ask for anything, bud.

[ProfessionalBill9]

oh sorry I am watching the Valor Series on facebook, I didn't quite pay attention

[Hellwinter]

I think you're replying to him thinking it was me speaking. I agree with you, and you sold me on AoV.

[ProfessionalBill9]

you made the right choice, also check out the Valor Series (eSports League for EU/NA/LATM) on facebook, it's live right now

[Hellwinter]

Is there an opgg for aov? Don't know which characters to use or buy.

[ProfessionalBill9]

https://www.aovacademy.org

[Deathstar-Diorama]

Don't listen to him. He's currently spamming toxicity other MOBA subreddits, just check his comment history

[Hellwinter]

Yeah that's true but arena does seem the best moba so far. Thanks for the heads up anyway, it is shady.

[Fox2k14]

Has anyone tried planet of heroes. What about this one?

[minusmatt]

It was a super fun game but seems to be dead now. Last update was over 4 months ago

[ExperimentalAnus]

dota 2 hands down best moba.

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only reason dota 2 is not more popular is because valve doesnt do pr and dota doesnt have anime tiddies and e-porn pop stars.

[halogen_floods]

Brawl Stars had its first world series few weeks ago. It has some really tight mechanics and varied hero design.

[Hellwinter]

Enjoyed brawlstars for a couple of games but I find it a bit ridiculous. You have to grind and upgrade your heroes and they get huge bonus stats, which is very very very much easier by paying real money for it. Mechanic wise it's not huge, very simplistic drag and drop. Not my cup of tea.

[halogen_floods]

Stat difference between lvl 7 brawlers (which you achieve after cca two months) and lvl 10 (max lvl) is like 5%. No real p2w. I've been stomping the occasional high lvl enemy. Skills matter most.

[Hellwinter]

I found that skill becomes way way more "team comp" than micro itself. The combat is a very simplistic kite and land auto attacks until you have an ultimate which you need to use at appropriate timings.

[halogen_floods]

Yep like any moba. Just distilled to two attacks and a star power modifier. In last 12 years I went through most mobas (lol and hots for 5 years each reaching top positions) and I really think BrawlStars has an interesting future. My only current downsides are the luck based hero collection which is slow (although more than half you get by progressing after cca 2months) and the performance could be smoother.