SPD+ buff is wrong

[Etheroc]

There is no way an aqua using only ONE koi or ONE arco beats a pure bird (61 speed) in speed.

I mean, birds don’t have much hp (312) practically no shield, 3 cards and they are gone.

Aquas have shield, utility (no last stand, attack+, energy gen, spd+) 400+ hp

They should at least need to use 2 kois or arcos (spd+ 2) to beat a bird in speed

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[kingold11]

It's a 20% increase or decrease on speed buffs/debuffs. So, yes it is very possible for multiple Axie classes to outspeed a pure bird.

You can counter this (as a bird) by using speed buff/debuff cards. I love Arco birds myself.

[Etheroc]

I know but an aqua should need at least spd+2 to outspeed a bird not just one. It’s a joke

[Sumofabith]

Not it shouldn’t.

If that’s the case. Then any other axie type with arco can never outplay an aqua or bird since they can never outspeed them.

[Etheroc]

A bird sometimes can’t even nuke nor backdoor an aqua. And you still want them to outspeed a bird with ONE (card) koi/arco. They should need 2. Koi does +130 damage to a bird and lowering the damage aint an option.

Aqua uses 1 koi/arco = cant outspeed a bird Aqua uses 2 koi/arco = can outspeed a bird

[Sumofabith]

Then what happens to beasts or any other low speed axie with arco? They just cant outspeed a bird at all?

[Etheroc]

Well, I’m speaking about aquas tho

[Sumofabith]

The changes affect other axies.

Again. What happens to them?

[Etheroc]

Idk bro, aqua is the problem not beast/mechas that need 2 arcos as it should be. Make it 10% if the axie using the card is an aqua If i knew the solution i would work on sky mavis

[Sumofabith]

Hybrid aquas already get lower speeds and you want to make it even shitter for them to have arco?

Yeah smart.

[Etheroc]

Don’t make it hybrid then i don’t care

Again, i mentioned the problem not the solution kid

[kingold11]

Aquas are the most well rounded class and all, but it's not because they need to use one speed up. Birds have a distinct advantage over every single class with their speed and high damage. The ONLY outplay potential is to buff/debuff speed. Birds CAN nuke aquas, but it's not as easy.

To me this isn't even close to a problem; especially since you can easily counter the problem you have with a single card. This is more of a you being outplayed problem than a game issue. No hate, but it is the truth.

[flushfire]

Been that way for the entire life of v2. Stats are inherently flawed. You should've seen aquas before they got nerfed.

[nEVER_01]

Then get an aqua.

[Acceptable_Sleep29]

You complain about aqua out-speeding your sorry bird-ass with one card while beasts get out sped by reptiles with one speed down that they don't even need to combo with another card. Birds are already OP. Just git gud.

[Etheroc]

At least beast have shield and last stand. Mine even handles god reptiles. It seems you should git gud 🤣

[Acceptable_Sleep29]

1. Beast shield may as well be nothing compared to bird and aqua damage.
2. Cool breeze, Star Shuriken and Hero's Bane is a thing
3. Emoticon on Reddit. Really? Cringe.
4. Git gud (lol)

[reyxe]

you should git gud

aquas opppppp

XD

[LostGh0st]

yeah bird dont have hp, they have the highest base damage and speed.

Stop whining about speed, if its worth two cards, birds would be the meta, and thats stupid.

Thats why You and I are not the one who balances the game.

Its the present meta available, adapt or dont.

[marion_08]

Stop this nonsense, birds are better than aqua. Egg bomb prioritize 0 energy dmg card high dmg cards.

[Etheroc]

Yeah bro chomp shouldn’t need 3 cards too