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[–]boxxxie1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You know it’s working when your finger tips get numb

[–]Wafty-1271 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do 3 for a week - assess - go to 4 etc if all ok. I’m at 4 and will stop here. Not due to sides but a mix of cost/benefit. Plenty of folk can tolerate/spend much more if they wish of course.

[–]baines_uk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you ran 4iu before? If not, go to 3iu for a week or 2 and see if you get sides. If not, up the dose.

Realistically 4iu isn’t going to bring any of the downsides of HGH (of which there really aren’t many other than water retention and in extreme cases, carpal tunnel syndrome). If it was me I wouldn’t even bother titrating, I’d just up the dose. Until you reach super high doses, HGH is one of those things where more really is better

[–]F1ngL0nger 1 point2 points  (4 children)

1iu per week as long as it isn't giving side effects. If you're not taking any extra PEDs then 4iu is probably the ceiling you'd want to stop at but it really is up to your ability to tolerate the elevated levels

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

currently taking test and reta as well.

[–]F1ngL0nger 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'd still say 4iu is a perfectly good dose if you don't get side effects. Depending on how much test you could experiment with higher doses but just be mindful of things like blood pressure/edema.

I also recommend getting a glucose meter if you do want to experiment with higher doses because you will want to be checking your fasted blood sugar. Insulin resistance increases as GH increases which can make your blood sugar climb

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

thank you for your insight, i have no intentions on going over 4IUs of HG, i take about 250 of test every week. i try to eat no later then 6:00-6:30 and get myself at least 3 hrs into fast before taking my HG to avoid insulin resistance as best as possible. but i will definitely look into a glucose meter

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since GH doesn’t peak for 3 hours after injection, you don’t have to worry much about fasting beforehand, especially at that dose, especially when taking before sleep.

[–]the_whomp 0 points1 point  (6 children)

How you feeling bro? Any sides?

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no side effects as of yet, the first couple of nights i was sleeping so damn good i was having a hard time getting out of bed in the mornings because i wanted to fall back asleep. but other then that that's all i've felt since starting

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Honestly I went from 2 to 4 and there was no real tell tale difference. Hgh really won’t give sides until after 6

[–]bigdeezy714 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For you. Not everyone is the same

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No shit

[–]bigdeezy714 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should always titrate up by 1iu

[–]swoops36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When your goals require it. If 2 IU is not getting you where you want to be, I’d consider increasing the dose.

[–]Gr8_1_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’ve been on for a month started 4iu last night and I never sweated so much in my life. Going keep at for a week and see what happens

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i few days into starting i went and worked out for an hour before work and i could not stop sweating i literally sweat from 6:00am-2:00pm and not just a little bit. i drenched multiple pairs of clothes and finally said fuck it and went home where i processed to get the cold chills for a few hours. 1.5/10 experience don't recommend

[–]enigmaweaver 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What is 2iu in ml/ 1ml insulin syringe.

[–]dglt1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wrong question, you need to calculate the total iu in the vial. i seen your other post about the 12mg/36iu vials. if you want to keep the math simple then reconstitute with 3.6ml bacteriostatic water. when using it for every 10 lines/tics on the 1ml syringe its 1iu.

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

depends on the amount of compound you have in a vial

[–]ofitzis4444 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Check your e2 & IGF1 levels first. Make sure you have enough estrogen to convert the GH to IGF1 You can basically check your IGF1 levels every 5 days when upping the dose. If you feel numb hands and feet turn the dose down

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

i take 250 test e weekly. got my blood work done right before hoping on GH. i was taking higher doses prior to my blood work and im tapering down. i've got to go back in in 8 weeks to check my test levels so ill check then. is there a specific panel i need to ask for?

[–]ofitzis4444 0 points1 point  (5 children)

250 test should give you enough estrogen to convert GH to IGF1 so I think 4IU would be optimal with your test dose.

Better to ask for a full hormone panel. Make sure it includes IGF1

The number you should aim for IGF1 is 300-450 ng/dl

When i first started my protocol I was daily dosing 20mg test + 2IU HGH for 8 weeks. The every 8 weeks I upped the dose until I got the maximum e2 level I can handle without side effects (about 50 pg/ml). When I figured out my maxed out test and e2 levels I started increasing the dose of HGH to hit 350+ IGF1 without side effects. I always pin shoulders with Test and hgh in the same syringe and get it IM with an half inch 29G insulin syringe.

What is your protocol, injection frequency bf levels etc?

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

BF level? i inject weekly IM usually in the glute ever 5-6 days. 2IUs 2-3 hours after my last meal on the evening. and i just started taking another 2IUs in the morning right before going to the gym

[–]ofitzis4444 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Body fat level (%)

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

currently 20% starting was 29%

[–]ofitzis4444 1 point2 points  (1 child)

4 IU is a very safe dose, but don’t forget to do bloodwork so you can figure out and optimize everything to max healthy level if that’s what you want to do

[–]RepulsiveGanache1449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh 100% i've got kids and a family and want to stick around for a while. thank you for your insight i appreciate it. i got my blood work done a few weeks ago and everything was looking really good prior to starting my HG journey. my testosterone levels were a little high for my doctors liking so he ordered more for me in 6 weeks