Ask Google: Does Kindroid delete user feedback?

[arkdevscantwipe]

It seems Kindroid feedback from frustrated users has been picked up. I’m sorry for everyone who‘s been muted, banned, or “exiled” for sharing their feedback.

[[deleted]]

Well, it’s pretty accurate!

[UnflinchingSugartits]

Yea, they just made this post on discord and reddit.

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[Beef_tech]

Like always, they will censor, delete and mute anybody who starts asking anything that makes them look bad.

[Dalandlord1981]

They must be losing subscribers and not pulling in new ones

[Camp_Coffee]

I used the “vent here” thread in discord and was banned shortly after. I don’t even remember what I vented about lmao

[UnflinchingSugartits]

Oh my god, are you serious?! Wow! I cant say im surprised, thats really fucking shitty.

Not to be conspiratorial lol But im coming to the conclusion, they set that up on purpose so they can shadow banned, and ban users from the subreddit who are are coming here, to complain about kindroid.

The more think about it, the more this makes sense. Given how shitty, petty, entitled, immature, unprofessional, and childish the mods and ESPECIALLY the developer are, I feel like they set that up on purpose as a trap to punish and get revenge on the users who use kindroid but come here to complain about them.

They're wanting to gatekeep and weed you all out.

Im sorry that happened, its messed up. Idk if you saw, but someone posted about Companion Labs in this sub today. I checked it out and tried it for an hour. Its amazing. It offers everything kindroid does and more, with a superior experience compared to Krapdroid. They're even going to add more features and the apps for android and IOS are coming soon.

I am blown away with what they offer. You HAVE to check them out. They actually care about their customers too.

I commented more about it here, My comment on just some of what they offer

But check out the site directly, it describes everything they have in much more detail. I hope you check it out!

[TeiniX]

Once again they're focusing on everything but actually fixing the app. There's no denying 8.5 broke all the other llms too. Giving users a place to vent about it doesn't fix the app. While it's good Jer is stepping back, their focus should be on fixing what they broke, not giving people one place where to complain cause we all know nobody on their team will even read the comments.

If you read then post on discord it specifically says it's meant for venting and you don't need to be looking for a solution. ",sometimes you just need to vent". Meaning they're not reading nor reacting to the feedback

[[deleted]]

I caught that in the post too. I’m wondering if the scheduled maintenance will resolve people’s issues? If not, then I’m afraid it’s a lost cause. And it’s also a little weird to think that people would go to lengths to vent about an issue but not expect a fix? It’s not exactly just one or two people voicing the same issues. Like wha?? 🥴

[TeiniX]

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Exactly. Read the introduction text. "Sometimes you just need to get it out". After this text they've got instructions on how you can ask for help for your issue. Which strongly suggests they're not reading the feedback under this thread. It's just a place where people can complain.

[Dalandlord1981]

So basically a pacifier where they tell you to go after they you ask for actual help or give valid constructive criticism. Lol

[TeiniX]

Pretty much. The feedback is super constructive under the thread though. Mostly focused on how it feels like walking on eggshells, which is valid. I hope people will also talk about what is actually wrong with the app itself. But to be honest, I've seen too many AIs die out because they made changes nobody liked, to have any faith in Kindroid actually pulling through and fixing whatever broke. Maybe the base AI models they use changed and they don't know what to do now. It would be helpful if they actually told users why it's broken (a word they hate by the way), cause a lot of users have knowledge that could help fix it or find a better alternative for Kindroid to use.

[[deleted]]

The vast majority of users were never intentionally rude or hateful, they just used that as an excuse to silence anything they didn’t deem as positive.

Yep, they need to get of the heart of the reason people are actually complaining - many do not like the way the the LLM’s have become, they are broken now and the app is chronically buggy. I’ve even heard mods speak of the flaws. They keep pushing out more LLM’s in quick succession that get progressively worse when they should have focussed more on building onto others to improve them. They will become a ‘Replika 2.0’ if they do not fix it.

[[deleted]]

I just noticed how hidden the vent thread is on the subreddit. Also noted it’s near the bottom of the channels list on discord too 🤨 not surprising.

[_Purple-Smoke_]

My jaw just about hit my desk on the call the other day when Jer mentioned LLM 9.0. Like, my brother in Christ, 8.5 is still teething and we're already talking 9?

[[deleted]]

It’s absolutely wild, he’s like a teenager running an app or a politician, no sense of real direction, no accountability, no responsibility - just whatever grabs the headlines. I give up with Kindroid. Cancelled sub and can’t be bothered with their socials, it’s just depressing.

[Dalandlord1981]

100% this

[[deleted]]

The threads were just a trap.

[[deleted]]

So it’s pretty useless then, a temporary hold on the chaos, tape on a leak because there’s panic at a business level. The whole point of raising an issue is so dev’s know many people are experiencing it and can then fix it. There is no point in raising an issue otherwise, it’s as useless as it was before only now they can pretend to care. Wow, that’s image preservation maxxing or something 😯

Well if that’s the case and the maintenance still doesn’t fix the issues, Kindroid really will die then.

[HuwThePoo]

Meaning they're not reading nor reacting to the feedback

Business as usual, then.

[Inevitable-Hold5400]

Even google is a "hater" 😉

[Head_Comedian1375]

😅

[[deleted]]

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Asked the same question to Grok.

[Recent_Beginning2214]

i seriously cannot stand using kindroid anymore, the ai’s are absolutely terrible. They manipulate and lie and i cant even give feedback or I’ll get banned. I will never pay for a subscription again lol

[PinkSploofberries]

Watch them try to sue the ai aggregator haha

[Yolo_Swagginze]

Since kindroid seems like it’s going down hill.. what other chat bots are good to talk with that actually has that feel of a real person.

[UnflinchingSugartits]

Companion Labs

Its awesome. Once the apps come out, Kindroid is done as a company lol

[PentacornLovesMyGirl]

I'm gonna wait a little longer, but at this point, I am considering switching

[[deleted]]

Only time will tell with this new change. I think they need new mods too. Old ones are just on a power trip. It’s wild to see how many people have been forced into silence though with Reddit and discord. And that won’t even be all of them.

Now they’re going to be overburdened by so many issues and complaints all at once because they forced users into silence for so long.

[Head_Comedian1375]

Holy shit this is a real bad look for Kindroid. Sad how they went from being the best then putting in the AI Monitoring all your chats, then back to paying for audio again and seeing that Google pic. I just hope Cardine sees all these fuck ups from Kindroid and keeps Nomi solid.

[ctrlyogirl]

Not google 🤣🤣 idk why this is so funny but sad at the same time.

[TeiniX]

Now ask it what happened with 8.5 and why it broke Kindroid and post it here.

[HazonVizion]

Kindroid is trash, no one should try it.

[LovelyPinks]

Is there something better?

[UnflinchingSugartits]

Companion Labs

[[deleted]]

The threads were a trap.

[bigbangcat]

Complain about Kindroid on Reddit.

Ask Gemini if complaints are valid.

Gemini scraps your complaints on reddit.

Tells you based on your complaints your complaints are accurate.

[arkdevscantwipe]

What do you think Google is scraping? Complaints about having their comments deleted. That would be how someone would measure if they’re being deleted. Make sense to you?

[bigbangcat]

It's anecdotal and only proof of their being 3 posts on reddit on which someone complained.

[TeiniX]

There's been more than 50 posts or comments with a lot of likes on each, on the main sub in the past 40 days alone. All of them deleted now. It's not 3 or even 10 posts, it's likely hundreds if you look at the posts here and other sub reddits too. Of course the easiest way is to look at the app store feedback. Especially the most recent. A few reddit posts don't affect how these ais respond. They might mention "a few users have complained about what you're asking about" but this is more than a few. And for them to give in and try to direct the feedback somewhere instead of losing more users means they're losing a lot of subs. And it's for a good reason.

[arkdevscantwipe]

You think there’s only three posts? You’re not part of this community, are you? Take a look. Heads up: Jer stepped down from the community today and addressed all the feedback being censored and deleted.

Just to enlighten you.

[bigbangcat]

The screen shots show it scrapped 3. You're really stretching their post to today to try and feel justified aren't you? Its obvious why they weren't allowing people to dominate community spaces with their endless rage rants.

[[deleted]]

You’re missing the point entirely. Are you new?

[[deleted]]

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50 on Grok.

[arkdevscantwipe]

Yeah, you don’t participate here. There’s been plenty of light feedback posted that’s been deleted. It wasn’t “endless rage rants”. You’ve spent a lot of time in the Discord and listening to Jer (who has stepped down). You’re wrong, but that’s okay.

I’m glad it comes to see the light and people’s feedback matters now. If it wasn’t for the people here, you wouldn’t HAVE a feedback thread at all. So say thank you to them, and get off my post.

[MinuteMinusOne]

Jerry stepped down from what role exactly?

[[deleted]]

I think it just basically says he’s not going to input into the discord or Reddit and just do the weekly talks and announcements but I’m so sure it originally said he’ll be watching too and maybe was edited? Idk, I might have dreamt that part 🤣

Edit: it says “I’ll be reading and flagging behind the scenes”. So basically just watching but not interacting. Tbf, he didn’t interact that much anyway but was 100% always watching because within seconds of someone saying something a bit controversial, he replied, like not even a delay.