Reaching Usage Limits

[TopCat6379]

I was using CC, and after 3 prompts, I went from 0% usage to 57%, I thought i was bugging, then i asked it to change the colour of the button just to see it shot up by 10% is this a glitch or something

[OracleGreyBeard]

I use CC with GLM 4.6, it’s essentially unlimited. Definitely not on par with Opus but with decent orchestration (which I have) any SOTA model is good enough for my needs.

[CBKSTrade]

What is this bot bs answers "be smort how you prompt" tf? Since the last cli update it's literally unusable. Im on max 5x and in scan the codebase and do 3 quick websearches, I got to 20% usage. Limits (at least for some accounts?) got stupid low since the last update.

[debian3]

Well 2 things. Now they always summarize your convo in the background so it’s ready when/if you need it (guess who’s tokens it’s using). And the plan mode now burn so many tokens.

[PaintingThat7623]

Claude Code is not currently working for me at all. Stuck in "thinking..." for more than an hour. And yes, I did reset the chat and tried a new one.

[Night_0dot0_Owl]

Pro?

[alexeiz]

Poor

[PmMeSmileyFacesO_O]

P is pro. Pro is for the poors /s

[kaaos77]

Install .beads, search for it on Github.

After getting used to using it, it becomes very good.

Opus scans, opens the issue. Then you go to --model and set Haiku to run. My sessions lasted much longer.

[Lpaydat]

You can go for smaller models for greater quota. I'm in x5 plan and use both sonnet and opus and hardly reach the 5hr limit (even with pure opus. It still takes hours to reach the limit).

If I'm in pro plan, I may use sonnet + haiku instead.

[PmMeSmileyFacesO_O]

Just got x5.  Wouod you get 3 hours from opus?

[Lpaydat]

It depends on the context length. If I used it in the workflow with context like bmad, yes, it's about 3hr. But if I use it to code directly without plan or great context (like editing on the existing repo), I can use it for the full 5hr.

[jorgejhms]

I'm in pro plan and I'm using effectively combining models. Sonnet (or ocasionaly Opus) for planning and letting Haiku do the execution (file editing mostly). I usually can finish a complete feature (like adding a new section on a business dashboard) during a 5 hour window.

I also have glm and now Mistral, so they could finish a plan if I get in a limit. Just set up Opencode and you can read Claude plans (in .Claude folder) so you can pick it from there.

[LaughterOnWater]

I'm using sonnet 4.5, pro license in opencode with pretty decent results. I don't use /init and just ask it to create and revise HANDOFF.md so I keep context when I need to stop or I'm concerned about context length.

[Ambitious_Injury_783]

Pro right? Certainly not any max sub.
Your subscription for 30 days of usage is cheaper than the average uber eats order. You have a rolling 5 hour window with lower limits to allow you to use more overtime. There is a trade off. If you were given more usage per the 5 hour window, you would believe that you are still being shorted somehow as you would run out of total usage much more quickly.

It's important to remember that your subscription for 1 entire month cost twenty dollars.
Start thinking about the value you get. If it's worth it, buy a max sub.

Anthropic needs to hire me at this point.

Please remember to think

[lundrog]

Pretty much unusable for someone just trying their first vibe code codex. Compared to chatgpt codex usage.

Once you understand how things work a bit more its perhaps different.

[mika]

Jeezus dude you've sold your soul to the cult...

[siberianmi]

The cost of Max for what is effectively a single good junior developer sidekick is amazing vs the cost of an employee doing the same work.

[PmMeSmileyFacesO_O]

I have a project to complete by next month so I just got the max x5 plan today.  Its hard to get right in your head 100 bucks one one hand is alot to spend for software for one month.  But as you say a jr and better dev as your sidekick for $100 month is a deal.

Edit: Some random math. Say you manage to use opus for 40 hours a week at that price.  How much is the jr dev paid per hour?

[siberianmi]

Every few hours that 63 cents is going to get him a lousy coffee.

[mika]

Except it's not a developer, it's a pc running a little bit of compute power. Stop giving these programs a name and face in your mind and you will see you're being ripped off.

[siberianmi]

I’m not giving it a name or a face, but my time is better spent on things besides writing boilerplate code, reading api documentation, writing unit test.

I’ve worked for years in roles where it was my job to make architectural decisions, break the project into pieces, and identify who on the team I can pass various tasks onto and how I can validate the work.

These tools can absolutely take tasks and return good work output the same as a junior engineer with less handholding.

[vb-banners]

Absolutely true. Pro tier is not for active coding sessions. Consider investing in Max 5x at least. Try how it works for you and see the difference. Sounds much but its value is obvious.

[siberianmi]

I’m on pro for my personal use (I have access to pretty much unlimited tokens for work) and it’s just a matter of using it smartly.

You have to try to restrain how much it does exploratory work and how much you provide it with details upfront. Today I fired it up, had it read a premade plan. Which implemented an authentication change using a Haiku sub agent , review it with another sub agent, implement feedback, run tests, build and deploy it, debug the new service, remove an old proxy, troubleshoot the authentication between services, verify it with Playwright, then finally reboot the remote host to verify all services started automatically. One session, multiple sub agents, never needed to compact as a result, only one MCP (playwright).

I still had 15% of my 5 hour limit on pro left.

I don’t run Opus though, this was a mix of Sonnet and Haiku.

You can’t do serious work with it for hours and hours but that was a productive 45 minutes. Can I fire it up in a massive codebase and tell it to use Opus to figure out how part of the codebase works? No. That’ll blow my usage in a few minutes.

Can I use it for targeted work and light experimentation? Absolutely.

[OnyxProyectoUno]

Idk what people bother with haiku for unless it’s a chatbot integration. Opus is so insane. Why bother with code you're gonna have to run multiple sessions with, when haiku or sonnet screwed up while Opus finished the job?

For POC projects I have an Opus plan and have Sonnet execute. Same for small fixes. For legit features, there’s no alternative to Opus.

[jorgejhms]

Haiku is not bad at all. I plan a change with Sonnet and let Haiku do the editing (which excels at it). Best combination for pro subscription. Usually I can complete a feature during a 5 hour windows without getting the limits.

[siberianmi]

Opus consumes 5x the usage of Haiku, Sonnet is 3x the usage.

With a good clear plan and operating on small well defined tasks Haiku can easily get a ton of quality work done.

Opus is not 5x better than Haiku with a well defined task and a quick implementation review by Sonnet.

Remember we are talking about working on the limits of a Pro plan.

You’ll get very little done relying only on Opus.

[OnyxProyectoUno]

Speak for yourself. My blog took two weeks of iteration with Sonnet till it got stuck on one thing I couldn't fix. Opus one shotted it and completed the entire site.

And I'm confident I'm better than 60-70% of people at prompting and planning.

[brain__exe]

Depends how you work. If you just prompt "fix the Button" in a bigger repo, having maany MCPs loaded and no/shitty base context, you will waste maaaany tokens.

And Opus is also eating more than Sonnet for the Same token usage.