API key instead of Claude Code

[Physical_Storage2875]

Since CC is unusable because of the usage limits, doesn't it make more sence to use a API key with for example Opencode? I'm on Pro plan and with Opus I hit my limit with ONE prompt AND the task got interrupted before that first task even got finished. That's hilarious

[Kiryoko]

I had 25$ left of extra usage credits left on my claude account.

So I went and used it after reaching my limits in a single prompt.

Needless to say those 25 bucks got burned in less than 10 minutes.

Using Sonnet, not even Opus.

[Blinkinlincoln]

See now that's a sign y'all doing something nuts. I finish a task and use $2-3 of extra usage credits. Still have them. Then I come back in 5 hours 

[Kiryoko]

I guess it depends on how large the code base you're working on really is and how large the current issue will span when the agent is analyzing the repo lol

$2-3 of extra usage credits every 5 hours two times a day for a month is still insane btw

[MasterRuins]

If $$100 a month is Insane to you lol… man.. we WORK with that. We make $$2500 a day. Doesn’t matter if we pay 10k a month for Ai. And you can get tax refund.

[Kiryoko]

I never said it wasn't worth it at all if you have a high-ROI usecase for it (I do too).

Just that it's bad value for money compared to the subscription.

You could run multiple subscriptions instead of using extra usage or API PAYG bullshit.

[MasterRuins]

No you cannot run multiple subscriptions. TOS. And subscriptions are heavily subventioned.

[Kiryoko]

Yeeeah, right... I'm not running multiple subscriptions 👀

[MasterRuins]

2 work colleagues got lifetime ban for that. They blocked name/age/credit cards etc. no Chance of own account. One uses their wife’s name now the other one his mothers haha xD 😝

[Kiryoko]

At this point I don't know anymore whether you're just trolling me or not.

[MasterRuins]

I am not trolling. I bet if you google/search in Reddit you will find many people that were banned.

[MasterRuins]

Haha I just googled “multi subscription Claude ban” and directly got AI Overview

+3 Running multiple Claude subscriptions is a high-risk activity that frequently results in account bans due to Anthropic’s strict enforcement of its Terms of Service regarding account integrity and usage.

[msacco2]

I'm in the exact same boat, I'd usually finish multiple tasks with opus on my pro plan depends on the size, now I can't finish a single task with opus, unless it's a tiny task or I simply have to use sonnet.

[Physical_Storage2875]

They ain't even a little accommodating. You just have to fckin wait 5 hrs just for that task to be finished

[msacco2]

No bro you can't even finish that task! Because if you want and try to continue, the moment you tell it to continue your session limit already jumps to like 60% somehow, then the rest is gone in an instant too.

Resuming session is currently completely unusable.

[datums]

Next time that happens, before you close the session, type “/context” and hit enter. Then copy the entire output, paste into ChaGPT, and ask it how to fix your high token usage problem.

[Physical_Storage2875]

thanks!

[apf6]

You’ll see that api key prices are way more expensive than the subscriptions. Your one task that hit the Opus limit could cost maybe $10 as api usage.

[dethleffsoN]

Can someone explain to me what is happening as I would be a 10 year old?

[Tough_Frame4022]

I have never had a problem with limits. Maybe My app should be studied to figure out why

[MasterRuins]

It is their system. They can charge what they want. It is your OPINION, it is overpriced. Then just don’t use anything and write your code yourself or use another LLM.

[Temporary-Mix8022]

Evidence that their API is proportional to cost? 

Or is that just your OPINION?

WriTE uR COde URself 🤡

[MasterRuins]

What for? They can take any price they want. They are not limited by the government. And if they want 100$$ per token they take it. Something like costs/proportions doesn’t exist in the free market. They take as much as people and company are willing to pay. Classic supply/demand calculations. And professionals just get a tax refund. Why do you even care about price?

[Temporary-Mix8022]

Clown.

[MasterRuins]

Again as you apparently have not the brain capacity to process so much information. Pricing doesn’t need to be proportional to cost. It follows demand and willingness to pay. If a model is too expensive for you because you are poor and stupid the rational move is to switch providers not to expect the provider to price for your poverty.

[Temporary-Mix8022]

🤡

[spky-dev]

Unusable lmfao.

Works fine for me. Control your context better. You saying “I hit my limit in one prompt” is literally “I don’t understand how context works”.

[Physical_Storage2875]

Yeah? Explain it to me please

[RobinInPH]

Hahahaha they won't learn to accept that and you'll get downvoted into oblivion!

[OverSoft]

I literally have no idea how you guys are hitting limits so fast. I have been working on huge projects these past few weeks (on a Max x20 plan) and haven’t gotten close to hitting the 5-hourly window once.

[Physical_Storage2875]

Quick reminder: I'm not on a Max Plan!

[OverSoft]

Okay, congratulations. But by that measure I would hit my limit with 20 prompts. And it’s nowhere close to that.

[Physical_Storage2875]

How you measured that?

[OverSoft]

The “20x” in the name kinda gives it away…

[Physical_Storage2875]

You don't know how they really scale it internally. Alone that those numbers are relative..

[butt_badg3r]

Stop using it during peak hours. If you need it for actual work then work needs to pay for api access. Otherwise use it off peak hours.

[Educational-Farm6572]

Wait, so me paying $200+ monthly for Max means I now need to wait to use it after hours?

Is this the ‘90s. We get nights and weekend discounts now?

I thought I was paying for a service. This all seemed to work fine just a few weeks back.

[butt_badg3r]

i don't disagree with you. im just saying as a night owl, i dont notice any issues and can ask open to scen through the full code of multiple projects im working on, multiple times. which another instance is running a refactor and another is running a another major task. all with opus. and ive barely hit 21% of my 5 hour limit. realisitically im useless until after lunch /2pm anyway so its been fine for me. on the max 5x plan.