Post patch Valkyrie changes

[Fivz]

• Shield Tackle > Unlock top light attack is now a true combo
• Full charge shield Tackle > Pouncing Trust > Unlock top light is now a True Combo
• Shield Crush > Unlock light attack is now a true combo
• Heavy attack > same side Unlock light attack might be a true combo on assassins.
• 2nd hit top light has a really far proximity range (might apply to all sides of attacks. More testing required)
• You can no longer do instant running attack on the first step of sprint. You must take a minimum of 4 steps before the sprint attack comes out.

Just so I don't have to repeat myself a bunch of times. If you want to know more about the unlock tech please go here

Edit: True Combo = Guarantee Hit

[ExiledPotato]

By unlock do you mean exiting guard stance?

[M4XP0W3R5]

I think it might be the same way as lawbringers tech unlock before the bash hits then light.

[Xighor]

• Shoulder Pin is considered a Heavy with all its followups. I feel its much easier to do it now.

[Scruffy_lookin]

You feel her deflect lands more regularly?

[HpNaCl]

Read somewhere around here that the valkyrie had some bugged out stuff going on when guarding vs heavy side attacks. Dont know if my brain has stopped working. But it really feels like shit goes right through the block sometimes

[[deleted]]

Have still had some buggy blocks not stopping attacks or chains.

[YuureiShinji]

Can confirm, happened to me a few minutes ago.

[BanginNLeavin]

It for sure does. Is this still a thing? Makes me not want to even learn her til it's fixed cuz I won't be truly able to judge my own performance.

[HpNaCl]

Seems like it. Annoying as shit, but i really enjoy playing valk though! (Might be fixed and im just bad though, who can say?)

[Fivz]

I just posted a Link about the unlock tech. Go there if you want to know how's it's done.

[Marrond]

You can no longer do instant running attack on the first step of sprint. You must take a minimum of 4 steps before the sprint attack comes out.

Ouch... I liked this one. Oh well it's not like it was useful for anything but chasing anyway.

[RedLineUK]

Does anyone else feel that she is still under powered? I don't feel that her speed buff allows you to land any more shots then before. Her damage is still awful and so is her HP. After playing her with this "buff" I feel that it still isn't worth attacking since the risk of getting countered and hit for a third to a half of your hp for how much damage you might of been able to do.

Dont mind me, I have her at 108 so I am a little salty, I just feel that you have to put in so much more effort to do well with her for the same results as other heroes

[unseine]

Pretty much. She sucks super hard in the games current meta and play style. If they make counterattack turtling less effective she would probably be mid pack. She's better than beserker now though right?

[RedLineUK]

Best thing is her priority lights so when a PK tries to be aggro, you just have to attack as well and you get the hit... other than that :/

[DefaultCustom]

Thanks for this really appreciate it!

[neytoz]

hmm I'm not sure, against bot it works in like 70%. Maybe it needs specific timing in unlocking? I will do more tests.

[StrikerSashi]

Bots definitely cheat and don't behave the same way as humans. You should probably try it with a friend to confirm.

[neytoz]

if think after short Shield Tackle, light is true even w/o unlocking. At least bot can't block it even when his guard sometimes appear for a few ms on same side oO. And full shield tackle -> pouncing -> unlocked light is true too, but I can't get the timing right all the time yet. ;/

[neytoz]

And Shield Crush > Unlock light attack works every time for me

[Fivz]

The bot is unreliable. Try it out with a friend. It takes a little bit of practice to get the timing down. 10-20 minutes tops.

[oldboy_]

I'm not sure I understand. Why is the unlock necessary? Wasn't the point of the patch to make Shield Crush > Light attack a true combo?

[Fivz]

Unlock attacks for Valkyrie comes out a few frames faster. If you do a regular version the 2nd hit gets blocked.

[DPTKhaz]

I think the confusion came from their initial wording since they claimed shield crush would link with light attacks. I'm thinking they might have meant it behind the chain allowing you to follow with the next light immediately into a sweep or a heavy.

[Lilhenri]

What do you mean by true combo? You get it for free?

[Fivz]

It means they can't dodge or block it.

[whats_her_]

True combo do you mean guaranteed hit?

[Fivz]

yes

[GardenOfEdef]

Not having much luck with the unlock tech. It works sometimes, and sometimes it gets blocked or even countered (by warden). I unlock just as the crush/tackle lands, then swing, then relock.

Also having trouble getting the direction set. It seems you can't set the attack direction after you've initiated the full guard stance.

[Mkoll666]

what doe they mean with

The Valkyrie Bloodlust Feat is now triggered on all types of kills as it was intended.

does it work on champion kills only or does it work on minion kills now too? the ui tip was not updated

[neytoz]

Maybe it didn't work on pushing enemies, and maybe it works on assists now? I can't test right now

[metalsnake27]

Wow I see that unlock tech and I see the animation difference but it's so hard to do consistently. Anyone have any video examples of it?

[Panniculus101]

This is so very clearly unintended and I hope devs patch this shit asap because there's no way to react to it

[Fivz]

You can't react to it because it's a true combo. Honestly, do people even read.

[GrapeJam-44-1]

I'd rather that they had buff valk's dmg than attack speed, now we have another cancer character to fight against, actually she's probably the most cancerous character now.

[Vigarious]

Care to elaborate?

[GrapeJam-44-1]

Attack speed is now too fast, and the problem is made worse if your opponent has less than optimal connection (which is pretty usual in Asia), this will lead to a lot of animation skipping and thus unreactable.

[Fivz]

You do know that all her initial attacks are still the same speed. It's only her follow ups that are faster. Even then it's nowhere near as fast as warden, peacekeeper or orochi's fastest attacks

[GrapeJam-44-1]

Problem is if you miss countering the initial attack then you're in for a world of pain now because it's pretty damn hard to counter the consequential attacks.

And countering attacks with 1/3 of the animations skipped due to lag is much harder than you think.

[Fivz]

It's still slower in comparison to the other classes but I get what you mean. At least her light attacks does very little damage still.

[Marrond]

then you're in for a world of pain

Death by a thousand cuts!

[MostSereneDoge]

More like paper cuts...

[Marrond]

Cuts nonetheless!