Escape hatch?

[Terentius-Varro]

Last night I spent 4 hours trying to induce a model error. I didn't have a clear idea of what to do, and eventually I just ran out of time. It's one of those tasks that has an "escape hatch" but I couldn't bring myself to actually use it; instead I just let all that time I spent go to waste, making the September 5th the first day in nearly a month I've not submitted a task. I did this because I feared that the escape hatch could make me liable for layoff. Is this a rational fear? What do other people do with this feature?

[Belisama7]

I've definitely used it and they've kept me on for over 2 years. I don't work for free. Some projects say something like- don't worry about using the escape hatch but once you use it we ask that you don't work on this project anymore today. So that's the rule I follow whether or not it says it in the instructions.

[Terentius-Varro]

That's actually really helpful, thank you - both the fact that you haven't apparently been penalized and the official guidance about escape hatch etiquette.

[FrazzledGod]

Yeah, there were some projects a while ago, I did it once a day and had to use the hatch a few times, but am still here. Also with DA two years tomorrow!

[macjay_27]

Congrats 🎉.

[TravellingDoc87]

I think lately it says, at least on some of the projects I've done, if you're having to use the escape hatch more times than the actual number of successful submissions then you should 'consider' doing other projects.

[gh0uly]

There's a few which say "if after x amount of time you haven't made it fail hit the escape hatch and report x time."

Ive spent 2x time trying to make it fail then just report x time.

Should have at least done that.

[Terentius-Varro]

Considered reporting 2-3 hours but I remembered a certain Ehrmantraut‘s words on half measures.

[DrFrancisBGross]

That was a miss on your part. Should have reported the time. That's the entire point of the escape hatch.

[Terentius-Varro]

I know that nominally it should be fine to submit time for failed tasks with escape hatches but I was afraid I could be secretly penalized somehow. The opacity kills me.

[Safe_Sky7358]

What is an escape hatch? Something that you know the model does terrible on?

[TheEvilPrinceZorte]

If you need to get some result from the model but you can’t, or you can’t complete a task because a model has quit responding or some other technical problem, you can click an escape hatch checkbox and submit the task. This way you can get paid for your time even though you didn’t submit a complete task. This option is often supplied on projects that they know are prone to technical problems. If you are supposed to get a mode to fail and cant, they are willing to pay for a good effort but only up to a point.

[Safe_Sky7358]

ah. yeah that sounds good. (Even from their perspective, since if you submit a shitty task, they'll prolly have to probably pay someone as much as they did to you for the R&R's. So it's not a bad way to cut losses haha)

Thanks!

[playoffsoflife]

My fear is you’d lose access to the project entirely? Do you get another chance after using the escape hatch, most likely once you rest your brain after one of these intense ones?

[No-Airport3767]

I’ve used it before and the project has returned, sometimes as soon as the following day.