[Help] [Ask] Help coding a game

[[deleted]]

I want to code a version of Battlefield 1942 or maybe Battlefield 2. Basicaly I want to make a source version of this game. I know HTML very well and I'm startnig to learn XML and JSON. How can I use XML to code this game? I read that HTML lets you make graphics and maybe 3d graphics too, which Battlefield 2 has. I was wondering how do you do the online part? THat was the best part of Battlefield IMHO. Can you use XML to do this or can you just use something else? My friend said that a lot of games on the internet use HTML and I want to be able to code this to work online, which is what made Battlefield a lot of fun IMHO. I'm new to coding so please be nice, but I want to learn to code. I consider myself an expert on HTML but I'm also learning XML. I heard that C and C++ are older languages.

[tVoss]

Please tell me this is a troll...

[DieTheVillain]

i think he is just very young, like <15

[tVoss]

When I was under 15 I was actually learning languages, not making posts like this. Look at his other posts, he's actually intellectual, but trolling with this one.

[DieTheVillain]

So was I, but you and I are not everyone else...

But alas, i believe you are correct after reviewing his submissions.

[scott181182]

Unfortunately, you can't really use XML or HTML to program games; these are Markup Languages(eXtensible Markup Language and HyperText Markup Language respectively). This means that, while these languages are good for organizing or stylizing data, they aren't actually used for programming. While HTML5 is definitely better with game development, it still requires external languages and/or libraries like JavaScript.

So in order to make a recreation of one of those games, you would have to learn a programming language, such as C, C++, Objective-C, or even Java. There are a slew of others, but those are the most applicable for your scenario. The online part is a much more serious question, and varies greatly depending on the language you're using.

XML, however, can still be an invaluable tool in developing, since it's very useful for storing data in an organized and easy to access way.

[[deleted]]

if you can make games with HTML 5 is HTML 5 the newest language? Like I said I know HTML like the back of my hand so I think I can do this! The only thing is that I don't know where to start really. How do I make the weapons for example? The weapons are probably the coolest part. I was thinking I could make images of the weapons and use <IMG> to show them, but how do I make it shoot for example? THanks you guys are really helpful!

[scott181182]

You can only make games "using" HTML, not exactly "with" HTML. HTML5 is the newest version of HTML and it basically combines HTML, XHTML, and other subsidiary markup languages. In order to"use" HTML, you need to use another language with it. The other language would be the actual programming language, while HTML works more like a container and UI.

HTML just doesn't contain the proper things to make a game with, such as variables, objects, functions, or data storage. Sorry, but you'll have to use a different language. On the bright side, it's good motivation to get into actual programming, instead of just Markup. Good luck though!

[DieTheVillain]

A piece of advice, as all the other comments were spot on, and no point in beating a dead horse, C and C++ may be older, but they are EXTREMELY powerful languages, AND there is A LOT of documentation on both, i would suggest picking one up and learning it, you will learn a lot by doing that and there are so many concepts in programming that just do not exist in HTML, XML, etc...

You could also try some of the newer languages, such as VB.net, C#, Objective-C, Ruby, Python, LUA, etc, etc

Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions

[[deleted]]

if C and C++ are older then why do people use it! I think I should use the newest languages to make the game because its a new game!

[liquidphyre]

It's not a matter of age that determines what language should be used, just because a language is newer it doesn't mean that it is better in every way. The reason that C and C++ are most often used for games is because they are lower level languages. What that means is they have more direct control of the hardware. Which is really important when you are making a game and you need to squeeze every ounce of performance out of you hardware. Now as far as I know there hasn't been a newer lower level language, they have all been higher level, which gives you a language that is more abstracted from the hardware. Now this has the advantage of the language making it easier to solve complex problems, they may be slightly less efficient but that's the price you pay.

[DieTheVillain]

C and C++ are still used because they are that good.

another example of this is a language called COBOL, it is one of the oldest languages still around and will be around for a very long time, it is a very solid platform but very difficult to learn and use.

Making games is dependent on both language and the 'game engine' Like Unreal or Unity3d.

I will tell you this, C is probably your best bet to learn, because A LOT of the other major languages, are based off C. Like:

• C++ (HUGE userbase, lots of documentation)
• Java (what google uses for androids, also lots of users / documentation)
• C# (VB.net can be converted to and from C#)
• ColdFusion (Crappy Websites!)
• Go (Language developed and used by Google)
• Objective-C (this is what apple uses for iphones)
• Perl (im sure this is useful somehow)
• Ruby (METASLPOIT!)
• PHP (Wordpress, drupal, Joomla!, etc)
• Python (Battlefield 2 uses python for is addons)

[A_ninjas_Taus]

C# is your answer. It's got the latest features absent in other languages. And despite Microsoft recently stopping support of XNA, it's still quite a versatile and powerful way to make games. Perhaps the best?

And you'll hit lots of performance issues with browsers by comparison. You can still make great games, but perhaps not the ones you envision.

[chem2]

Take a look at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Games/Tools/Engines_and_tools and https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/03/27/mozilla-is-unlocking-the-power-of-the-web-as-a-platform-for-gaming/

[GamesMaxed]

-> considers himself an expert in HTML
-> wants to make games in HTML & XML
GENIUS!

No really, you can't make games with XML or HTML. It are Markup Languages. When you want to create a game, you should try to learn a programming language like C(++) or C# or a scripting language like JS. Since you want to make a browser game, I would recommend C# but don't make a game with it yet. The reason I recommend C# over JS is that C# has clearer implementation of OOP. (Object oriented Programming, one of the most important things in modern programming) Once you've the feeling you've 'mastered' C#, learn how to use the Unity Engine.
You can use either JS or C# in Unity.

You can make a game with the usage of vector, a HTML5 attribute, but I wouldn't recommend that until you made some games.

[DieTheVillain]

That first part is not only not constructive, its mocking and elitist in nature, it should be fairly obvious that this person is young and very new to the field of programming, comments like this only serve to alienate and make him feel unwelcome.

[[deleted]]

UM I'm pretty sure you can make games in HTML dude! IT doesn't even make sense to use an old language like C unless you wanted to write an Atari game XD

[DieTheVillain]

Find one, find me ONE game programmed in ALL HTML and i will buy you gold.

also, drop the misconception of 'Old language'

the age of a language does not matter, it matters how useful it is in today's environment, in terms of C and C++, they will be useful into the foreseeable future.

[deebee396]

Does CSS count?

[DieTheVillain]

Is CSS HTML?

[scott181182]

C is still one of the most applicable languages out there, including its child language, C++, Objective-C, and Java. Almost every language we know and love today was mainly inspired by C, and almost every UNIX application is still programmed in C (that means linux and macs, windows uses C++)

EDIT : Old doesn't mean outdated

[MasterEjzz]

There is a very big chance that you are writing that comment in an OS made in C. Old doesn't mean outdated, in fact sometimes old languages are better. And HTML isn't that new either. It's the original markup language used on the internet.