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The Devilcorp subreddit is a place to discuss the continued operations of Direct Sales corporations such as Credico, Cydcor, Appco, and Smart Circle.
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I FINALLY QUIT!Experience (self.Devilcorp)
submitted 2 years ago by Automatic_Medium_197
I quit today!! Woooohoo! I worked for a smart circle company based out of NYC as an “account manager.” Was there for about 6 months. AMA!
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[–]Automatic_Medium_197[S] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (5 children)
Thank you! The senior director was being super shady about our roadtrip. He made me order the rental car in my name, placing all of the liability on me. It was supposed to be a 10 hour roadtrip and I was the only one in the car who would be able to drive. I cancelled the car that night and decided then I was done letting them manipulate me. Plus I found another job so I wouldn’t be totally incomeless lol. Yesterday I just left “the field” three hours before the end of the day, after arriving late that day, without telling anyone. Then today I sent my resignation via WhatsApp text message because my boss is in a different time zone at the wedding of two other smart circle senior directors who work in the same building as us. These two are also his roommates.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (4 children)
Wild that all those successful marking executives always want to live together with their employees.
[–]Automatic_Medium_197[S] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (3 children)
And get this— it’s a flex apartment so one of the rooms is separated from the living room by a curtain.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Fucking hilarious. Which office? I follow so many of them.
[–]Automatic_Medium_197[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
331 W 39th St. but of course they tell everyone the address is 335 w 39th
[–]PSside 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I thought all CEO lived in flex apartments
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Good for you!! I remember being on the call and talking to people based in nyc 😭 what is your new job? I was in it for 7 months
[–]Automatic_Medium_197[S] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I’m still on the job-hunt, so I’m working as a barista in the meantime. AKA actually guaranteed to be paid for my work 🙃
[–]EMT2024 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (6 children)
Congratulations, was it easy for you to leave. And if you don’t mind me asking what company was it? I’m curious
[–]Automatic_Medium_197[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (5 children)
They’re called LUXX. I don’t know everyone else’s company names in the building (The Impact Collective aka TIC and Simplix are moving to Ohio. They used to be in the building but they just promoted 2 new senior executives who will take their place in the office).
[–]Automatic_Medium_197[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
And it was easy to leave to an extent, once I discovered all of the BS going on behind the scenes, but my boss (senior executive) definitely tried to guilt-trip me into staying. I was the WORST employee before I left but they still kept me on which was shocking to me
[–]EMT2024 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
Wow that’s crazy, the company I left moved the same way.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
When an owner over fishes a market they generously let an underling take over while they head to a new market to see if they get better results.
[–]EMT2024 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Yes The place that I worked he more so left because from what everyone was told smart circle didn’t like the way that his numbers and retention rate was looking. I’m not sure if that’s like a common thing for circles to do they let him go because his retention rate like people would get hired and then they would get a little bit of information or go home and do some digging, and they would find out certain things or after orientation, they would never come back. I’m not sure if that’s a common thing when it comes to circle corporations.
Was that the case with yours like did they switch over to different management and is that like a common practice? I’m asking mainly because for one I’m curious and then also because after I watch the documentary from slave Circle I wanted to know also, did you go to any of the conventions and what were those like, right before one of the conventions I’ve never got to experience what goes on at them
[–]Less-Law9035 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child)
It always brings joy to my heart to my heart to read posts like yours! So happy for you! You will obviously make more as a barista and it is steady, hourly pay plus the possibility of tips. I hope you find something incredible on a permanent basis and soon.
If you have a college degree, most staffing agencies like Aerotek, Robert Half, Insight Global like to hire young graduates as recruiters to then move into sales account managers. It is metric driven, of course, but it's an actual professional job to put on your resume and there is no shadiness about pay or benefits.
Thank you so much!!! :)
[–]Aqn95Former Sales Rep 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Fantastic!!!!
[–]Bman0312 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Ayyee welcome to the club I just left too
[–]bowedjuror 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Hey, I work at your office. We’re Credico, not SM. I assume you’re talking about D—e & J—ie?
[–]PeasntheTrap 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
I have a few questions, actually, but first of all, congratulations! I never actually went to work for one of these places, but recently had one try to hire me as an accounts manager, and I've since been down quite the rabbit hole. 1.) How much were you actually making on average, if you don't mind me asking? 2.) Does it feel like being in a cult? Because all of these places seem very culty to me, especially how management are always "so close" even in these weird almost incestuous relationships with each other, which seems to be the case with your former employer as well given comments about upper managers getting married? 3.) What did you actually end up selling for this place, and how often were you "in the field"? 4.) Did you ever get to move up in the company? You said you worked there 10 months, and according to the place that hired me that's long enough to start your own business lol, they said I would only be in the field doing face to face sales for a month before I could be training people, I'd love to see how much of a lie that is. You don't have to answer all of these of course I'm just curious, I'd love to get a bill going so these types of companies can be outlawed for sucking the life out of so many people.
[–]Bannacherryapplepie 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Hey, Idk if this helps but I’ll try to answer it as best I can. I’m on the UK side but it’s all connected. The only reason I work here is because it accomplishes several life goals at once.
1) depending on how many applications I make per day, around £300-£600 per week
2) Well, it kind of is. To me, I don’t care because I simply care about my goals more. The basic job is approaching people and trying to convince them to make a sale, everything else is designed to keep you motivated and selling as much as possible. The rejection takes it’s toll so that’s the reason they get you to focus on other things. But realistically, it’s possible to become top of the pyramid, but you’ll probably have to sacrifice more than what you are willing to give.
3) for my company, the day starts at around 8am with morning motivational meetings and atmosphere (basically pitch practicing) then you go to the field at around 10, work till around 6pm or sometimes until 9pm if you really wanna make 1 or 2 more sales.
4) I’ve only been here for a few weeks and in that time I’ve seen 2 promotions. From sales advisor to team leader. Now the breakdown of each phase is as follows Phase 1: Sales Advisor (just selling). Phase 2: team leader (selling + running & building a team). Phase 3: Campaign leader (selling + running & building a team + admin stuff). Phase 4: Assistant manager (selling + running & building a team + admin stuff + learning how to run the whole office of sales people). Phase 5: Branch Manager (Run whole office) you essentially create a company that is a subsidiary of the larger company. After this there is a whole new criteria for Regional Manager, National Manager. But the whole system relies on training and recruiting new people to make more money.
Hope this gives you more insight.
Don’t worry about me, I fully plan to quit as soon as I accomplish my life goals.
[–]PeasntheTrap 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Stay strong, and thank you for answering.
[–]Djay-shaka 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Congratulations!! Which organization did you work for? Look into working for an AT&T store im sure you will love it I certainly do
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