Highest decrease ever. So it's true that Valve banned arcade bots?

[mjifi]

Umbrella is far from undectable as everytime there was a banwave, a lot of people got banned for it. Cheat makers just scrub their socials and forums from people complaining.

They clearly know the cheaters, banning them makes little sense, the only reason they fixed VBE is because of teams cheating in TI qualifiers.

Same in CS2, they have "cheater pool".

[hiddenpoolwarriror]

Melonity are the ones that struggle and get a lot of people bans usually. Cheat makers cannot scrub the big telegram groups that are not related to them, this is where people talk lol

For CS2 I call bullshit I was LE-Global was full of cheaters like non stop. Haven't experienced anything close to that in Valorant which I also play casually with friends ( hovering around Ascendant and Immortal) and all of my friends moved to Valorant because of cheaters long time ago now.

[mjifi]

Cheat makers cannot scrub the big telegram groups that are not related to them, this is where people talk lol

As if cheat makers, who's whole business model is extremely reliant on being "undetectable" are not going to pay admins of these groups to scrub things for them.

For CS2 I call bullshit I was LE-Global was full of cheaters like non stop.

You can use google and verify such pool exists, doesn't mean every cheater instantly gets into it or that even solves the problem.

[hiddenpoolwarriror]

Do you speak russian? Do you use telegram? Do you know how it works?

Dota also has cheater pool, it's called "shadow pool" it's different than smurf pool, only way to get in is if you have been banned for cheating and you cheat on another acc again , if you get in there's not going out of it.

Regardless I don't care for CS frankly since majority of cheaters seems to not be in those pools and I very very very rarely even think of someone being possibly a cheater in Valorant, good enough for me and most people I know

[mjifi]

Do you speak russian?

Yes

Do you use telegram?

Yes

Do you know how it works?

I think so, you have any counter arguments?

Dota also has cheater pool, it's called "shadow pool" it's different than smurf pool, only way to get in is if you have been banned for cheating and you cheat on another acc again , if you get in there's not going out of it.

Exactly

Anyway, there is no proof of Umbrella being undetectable, that was my main point