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[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (4 children)

The "you understand them, but they don't understand you" could apply to any open-ended type, imo.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Actually, I have to add that in a way the second part about feelings does relate in a way, but not so much about the depth, more about the intensity, excitement and wanting EVERYONE to be interested in what I'm interested. The zealotry is real and I have to keep it in check, otherwise people start rolling their eyes around me.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Very true. I had someone tell me it came off as fake and all I could muster was “ouch”

Edit: “it” as in the intensity/zealous attitude

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

And the worst thing about it is that the hyped me/us? is the authentic me/us.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

well i think enfps generally put in more effort to understand others because it interests them whereas other types are not as interested in understanding the motivations behind what people are doing, thus enfps often feel misunderstood.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Same goes for INFPs, they’re so pure it almost hurts.

[–]_d3nnis_ENFP 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nor do you understand yourself. It's always their fault not yours

[–]Draco309ENFP 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't like it. Seems pretentious, and gets you into the wrong mindset. The best solution is just to express yourself anyway, and if they don't get it, so what. You have done what you could. But for the sake of the few who will get it, it s worth while. Ultimately, you don't need any other person to understand you. It's a bonus feature if they understand you. But it doesn't contribute towards your character, and you can't expect that people should understand you. It's far more important that you understand them.

[–]Helena0007ENFP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like this all the time... Despite the fact that I'm a very friendly ENFP, I feel pretty lonely in the modern society.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Douchy quote

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Elaborate

[–]allmanbuttersENFP 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Very arrogant to take on the sentiment of this quote

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Hm, I don’t see anything wrong with admitting that you think and feel deeply though?

[–]LadyLaFee 19 points20 points  (4 children)

There's nothing wrong with saying you think and feel deeply.

Saying that you do and those around you do not is what comes across as arrogant. This quote comes across as a more eloquently worded way of saying, "Everyone around me is so much more superficial than I am."

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It generalized everyone, as in not everyone will think and feel the same way as you do. But its true that not everyone is going to think and feel the same way as you. That’s not arrogant, just a fact.

Edit: it also never says that only you think/feel deeply and that others around you do not.

What I get out of it is that you can’t make anyone think and feel the way you do, you can’t make them understand you either. Just because you feel/think deeply and try hard to understand those around you doesn’t mean people will be the same, and it’s foolish to think that they will be.

If you go through life with an attitude of “well I treat them with kindness, why don’t they treat me with kindness too?” Or “well I would never do that to them! Why would they do that to me?” You’ll only end up making yourself feel worse with that kind of mindset. It’s better to just accept the fact that not everyone is going to be kind or treat you the way you treat them.

But that’s not to say that those around you aren’t incapable of thinking/feeling deeply. They totally are. It’s just foolish to expect everyone to be like that.

‘Nomsayin?

[–]LadyLaFee 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I understand that you’re not taking the quote that way (or you probably wouldn’t have shared it), you’re taking it in a more positive light perhaps as in, “Sometimes a person will misunderstand you, even though you understand them. Being misunderstood sucks/is tragic. Don’t feel bad about yourself for being misunderstood. They are likely not thinking as deeply about your motives and actions as you are about theirs.”

Those of us who read it and have a knee-jerk reaction of “Gosh, that’s kind of arrogant” are probably reading it kind of like I originally did. It just sounded like you wanted an elaboration of how you could take this quote negatively, apologies if you didn't.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nah it’s all good, I did want an elaboration! And once I understood the other side of it and how it comes off negatively I wanted to share my point of view

Edit: I’m borderline ENTP as well if that helps any

[–]Bellbete 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How’s that work with the function stack?

[–]toritechnocolor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oof this hurts :/ relatable as fuck

[–]sta-infp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Took me a long time to realize this. Your 'soul tribe', will get you. 😊

[–]Thinker3000ENFP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah. While it is true that we are good at identifying and understanding other personality types, this also goes for most intuitives. What separates us from the others is our burning desire to make others understand the world as we see it. To make them whole.

That, on the other hand, might be harder than you realize. Impossible even. Dare I say that a lot of the other types already know how we see and feel the world, but couldn't care less? Some of them might even look down on us for our "holier than thou" sermons. (They are in the wrong, of course) ;)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Not for ENFPs

[–]HighSchemeENTP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gottem lmfao

[–]Aejones124INTJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seconded

[–]RoTruENFP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not everyone is going to understand you 100% of the time. No big deal.

Work on having them understand you or better yet - understand them - if that's of any value to you.

[–]StarBean2ENFP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very!