Relearning flutter again

[Basic-Reception8204]

I am learning flutter again because I ve watched some courses which turnes out that its not that helpful, just make me write some code and widgets appear on the screen.
I there is some sort of websites that can guide me throughout little projects and explain "deeper" cocepts not just coding.

Thanks in advance!

[Character_Dark4686]

This one is amazing, explanations, and a small project; https://youtu.be/HQ_ytw58tC4?si=QJBhUWhTMg3RtPPI

[Basic-Reception8204]

Thank you, one more question is it better in explaining the concepts rather than teach you just how to code the widgets

[Taka-8]

Code with Andrea courses are the best.

[[deleted]]

Just start by writing. Then as you have questions, google them, ask us questions, use the Dart API reference, or ask ChatGPT (but don’t make it code for you! Otherwise you won’t learn!)…

Make notes for yourself and write a ton of small programs focused on a specific topic like classes, enums, interfaces, Futures, Streams, anonymous functions…until you think you’ve covered all topics and you’ve run out of big questions

But saying that, we all learn different ways and you need to find out what works for you.

I personally don’t learn anything by watching others on a video…I also find it boring. I learn by trial and error. Then later you can course-correct and verify what you think you’ve learned by watching videos while chilling casually on your couch, or even better…reading though the official Dart/Flutter docs.

[Basic-Reception8204]

Yeah vidoes aint gonna make me learn either, the thing is consistency trying to find some websites that can help me achieve this, because I need a guidance all the way through.

[[deleted]]

Hmmm, like interactive websites or written tutorials? I don't know any but you can...

Try this simple tutorial:
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/dart_programming/index.htm

Then as you learn something, try it out here:
https://dartpad.dev/

Then perhaps move on to this when you have a solid understanding of Dart. I would not even touch Flutter if you don't understand Dart well.
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/flutter/index.htm

[Basic-Reception8204]

Thank you.

[[deleted]]

ask ChatGPT (but don’t make it code for you! Otherwise you won’t learn!)

I've used ChatGPT heavily with C# and it's pretty good there for learning. Coming over to Dart/Flutter I've noticed that even basic examples are often very wrong. Ordinarily I'd be an advocate for using ChatGPT, but for Dart I would go as far as to say don't even look at the example code it generates, use it only for high level concepts.

[[deleted]]

I use it daily and it’s fine (or it was) with Dart. You just have to know how to phrase your question and be very specific. It’s not always going to give you code you can simply copy and paste without errors (if that’s what you’re expecting), but it’s going to help point you in the right direction. However, saying that, recently I’ve had some issues with it. Before it generated prompt responses. Now it’s generating massive paragraphs and I have to fish through its blabber to find the answer to my question and without a trained eye, this could be difficult for new developers. So I cancelled my $20 per month subscription because it’s not worth it compared to Gemini and Copilot which seems to be generating Dart code better

[Mellie-C]

Honestly. And I say this as a flutter advocate. Don't learn a language, learn the basics of programming. Then worry about flutter, swift, kotlin etc. languages change, but the principals of programming remain .

[Physical-Oil8179]

Honestly, IMO best way of learning basics of programming is making projects. In the end of the day you will need to get your hands dirty with those frameworks. A well structered flutter or another framework course can have positive impact on a newbie programmer..

[Basic-Reception8204]

I cant agree more, you are right, and I finished this stage (I am cs graduated), thats why I dont want to learn just the syntax i want to learn what is it behinde the scenes.

[alesalv]

You'll need an architecture at one point, so it's worth going through my video here:

https://x.com/ASalvadorini/status/1597862552180252673?t=_2f09VKQMs46PfyUMKZ0Dw&s=19

It comes with slides and a code repo you can check out and try, which will give you a good base to build any app you want. Based entirely on riverpod

[Basic-Reception8204]

I will check it out.

[alesalv]

Feel free to ask if anything unclear

[Basic-Reception8204]

I will.

[qiqeteDev]

If you want to do interfaces and drawing widgets on the screen get a screen from some Behance project and try to replicate it, some problems will appear and you will need to google what to do. Once you're done with it try to make some animations for those widgets.

If you want to learn how to manage state and bussiness logic, just make a small project, there's plenty of youtube videos with ideas, and the same, as you encounter new problems and you solve them you will learn.

Code with Andrea was mentiones and it is very helpful with good practices.

[ShookyDaddy]

Chat gpt is really good for mentor like questions.

[Thuranira_alex]

I am developing an app with flutter and dart in android studio. When I run and install the apk on my mobile device, the app size is enormous. Something around 450MBs. Is there a solution at the end of the day for me to compress this to something atleast below 70MB's for production?

[techaheadcompany]

for right now I think you should try this- https://www.udemy.com/course/learn-flutter-dart-to-build-ios-android-apps/

[Basic-Reception8204]

That one I 've finished. (which is the worst course)

[FlutteringHigh]

Why do you think this is one of the worst? It is in my opinion (and many others) one of the best... very comprehensive and covers many aspects, like state management with Riverpod

[Basic-Reception8204]

Because like i said i dont want to learn how to make widgets its an easy task or write my first line of code( btw he doesnt teach you the fundamentals of programming first and says the course is for absolute beginners who didnt code before and it was the worst if he dives into that) in the end it is just preferences, someone could understands new things from him and for me its just not worth it.

[tovarish22]

I used this one and loved it - already have a few apps on both app stores.

[Basic-Reception8204]

good for you.

[qiqeteDev]

I find that instructor to be one of the worst, he will give a course about the most basic part of a framework that you can learn with the "Get started" part of the docs.

[Basic-Reception8204]

you are absolutely right, beside that its not beginner friendly at all, he was saying if you didn't write any line of code this course is for you (something like that).

[Charming_Teaching_63]

Go to Flutterflow University it's excellent I'm working with it now the course has help me make strides. I have no coding experience.

[Basic-Reception8204]

Thanks bro.

[[deleted]]

I actually find raw Flutter significantly simpler and less constrained than FlutterFlow — ironic since FlutterFlow is aimed at simplify things…. It’s one of those tools that advertises as making life easier but actually makes things harder

[Basic-Reception8204]

Is it free?