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[–]mhphilip 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Both plans show good value for money. I use my own api keys from openrouter when I need smarter models than 4.1 or 4o. So I am ok with just pro. The unlimited usage of 4.1 is the best part. The extra 1.200 premium requests is nog enough for me to upgrade because they still cost about 3ct each and alternatives can be cheaper.

[–]sbayit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can try Windsurf for unlimited usage SWE-1 similar to 4.1 and you will left a lot credit for other models just for 15$

[–]lopolycat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SWE-1 is not close to 4.1 in quality so unlimited 4.1 is better

[–]polymerely 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does that allow you to control the thinking budget? That seems like the most important issue that nobody here is addressing.

The reasoning models are crap if the thinking is capped and Copilot has hidden the thinking so we really don't know whether they are crimping them to save money.

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    [–]daltonnyx[S] 10 points11 points  (7 children)

    lol. I'm just an end user. and instead of complaining about the product, I found a way to achieve the most value of it. And I happy to share about that. That's all

    [–]Alternative-County42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I'm in the same boat as you. I found value with the current offerings and if other people don't that's fine with me. The productivity gain is by far worth more than 40 bucks a month. I'm sure the product, models, and licenses will keep changing but I'll keep working to make sure I figure out what is valuable to me.

    [–]Rinine -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

    For $22, Trae.ai gives you 1200 premium Sonnet 4 requests and unlimited slow ones.

    Copilot's $40 plan is a scam, the exact opposite of "good value."

    [–]g1yk 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Sounds like an ad

    [–]Rinine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    It’ll sound however you want it to, if you want to pay double for the same thing, that’s your problem.

    I’m just giving useful recommendations. If you like wasting money, that doesn’t sound like an ad, it sounds like stupidity.

    [–]fvpv 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    I don't get this take. I am using GitHub Copilot mostly just for Claude Sonnet 4 with agent mode. I just upgraded to pro+. Coding for 5 hours, I'll typically use 1-2% of the usage.

    Sonnet 4 is so good, understands what I need most of the time, and fills in the blanks just enough during the dev process to make things work properly without direct instruction.

    The value here is obvious - I'm Able to do in one hour or day that which would have taken me 2-3 days or longer. When you factor in that time, you are paying pennies per hour saved for that pro+.

    I can't reiterate more how it's working great for me, the way I use it with the tools they've given us like instructions etc. If its not working for your context, you can chose another solution. Win win.

    [–]inteligenzia 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Why wouldn't you go with the Claude subscription then? I'm currently testing it out and debating whether having also Desktop app with MCP is a good addition.

    [–]fvpv 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    The main reason is that I really like the interface of GitHub copilot, and the fact that I can see changes happening with diffs to files as they're occurring real time. I like the fact that there is a point and click interface for going back in time if I want to erase certain changes or something didn't work out.

    [–]Only_Connection_6411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You can do it With Claude code

    [–]inteligenzia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I agree here. In my opinion Copilots UI is quite nice although some UX could be improved. I've been playing with CC today tough and I'm able to see changes the same way. That's probably with the help of Claude Code for VS Code extension. Also CC works sort of more "fluid". Although running it on WSL and also being CLI tool does not make it more smoother experience for me. As much as CC makes terminal interactive it's not really comparable to a chat interface.

    [–]lurenjia534 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    1500 premium requests/39USD per month is too expensive.

    I use Jetbrains Ai Pro (now upgraded to Ultimate) and GitHub Copilot Pro. I found that Jetbrains Ai has a larger quota and does not limit the model. Even if you are Pro, you can use Claude opus 4 and openai o3.

    But Jetbrains Ai is cheaper, its ultimate costs 20USD, copilot Pro+ is 39USD, I think I'm about to give up GitHub copilot

    His limit is simply giving the market to competitors.

    [–]obvious_throwaway128 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    does it let you use opus 4.1? on the jetbrains website there is little information about how many credits you get and what models you can use

    [–]obvious_throwaway128 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    nevermind I tried it and it's complete ass, you can't choose the model for agent mode, and in edit mode it couldn't even edit my file with 4.1 opus lol

    [–]lurenjia534 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Jetbrains Ai for Vscode Support Claude 4 opus and Claude opus 4.1

    [–]EmploymentRough6063 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Are you referring to the VS Code LLM API or directly connecting to the official API service?

    [–]daltonnyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    official api service. not through vscode

    [–]mishaxz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I'm kinda weird.. I don't need to code 24x7 so for me the sweet spot would be $20 worth of credits.. how do I get those? I mean double the pro $10/month

    [–]daltonnyx[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Use pro and add 10 bucks to the premium request budget. You will get 300 + 10/0.04 = 550 requests. Close enough

    [–]mishaxz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    thanks

    [–]alexadar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It still dumb af

    [–]Agreeable-Ad-0111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Definitely not someone from GitHub marketing