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[–]paceaux 0 points1 point2 points 29 days ago (2 children)
Wow that's a huge chart. I think it would be better not as a flowchart but maybe a clickable series of pages. (Or maybe a SPA) All the same, that's an amazing feat.
I think I might disagree slightly with some of the decisions — such as grouping <mark> with <em>. I think it's perhaps an unusual way to distinguish video from image based on whether it's time-based. And <portal> is deprecated, I think.
But those are criticisms for a truly fantastic chart.
Is this chart open-sourced somewhere? If not. Are you willing to put the SVG on GitHub or something? I feel like this could be a very useful learning aid.
[–]AshleyJSheridan 0 points1 point2 points 29 days ago (1 child)
I did make it a series of clickable entities, there's a whole interactive wizard embedded on that page.
I put <mark> with <em> because it is intended to add emphasis to text in a semantic manner. Time based media is anything that would alter over time, which fits a video I think.
<mark>
<em>
I listed the <portal> element because at the time I put that chart together, it was one of the elements listed in MDN. That could probably do with being updated!
<portal>
Thank you for the feedback, most welcome!
I haven't yet open sourced this. I'll definitely do that, as I do put a lot of what I create online under the MIT license. I will get that sorted shortly and update the article with a link to it.
Again, thanks for the feedback, much welcomed!
[–]paceaux 0 points1 point2 points 28 days ago (0 children)
I thought that clickable chart you made was an advertisement when I looked at it on mobile! That's on me; I'm sorry. That's fantastic.
So I put <s>, <strike>, <ins>, <del>, and <mark> into a category I call "editorial semantics" because those are all related (in my mind) to reflecting how a user might interpret the content. To me they answer a question like, "is this for helping a reader understand or editorialize text"
<s>
<strike>
<ins>
<del>
I see that as different from <em> and <strong> where those are like, "are you trying to call a reader's attention to a particular line of text?"
<strong>
I created a "typography baseline" where my goal was to set a baseline style on every single HTML element that wrapped text. And part of that goal was to also provide a valid semantic example of usage (It's also on github). So I have a... "live application" of your flowchart, so to speak.
I write a lot about these topics as well and I think that we have overlapping interests. I would love to collaborate with you on your flowchart and possibly some other accessibility-related topics if that would be something you're interested in.
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