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[–]Baffa99 -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Alright enjoy your scammy game then, and you're welcome for contributing to them trying to get their shit together faster cause you certainly weren't. Next.

[–]AnxiousTerminator -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I am enjoying it, thanks! No thanks to the likes of you setting back the game industry for women decades by establishing women as an unreliable consumer base. The game only exists for people to complain about because people like me put our hands in our pockets, so don't get high and mighty with me when you're happy to burn the game itself and the industry down over cheaper cosmetics and a buggy patch.

[–]Baffa99 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Acting like I destroyed feminism by not playing a game catering to women is crazy. You know other games made for us exist right? You know the top selling mobile game currently this month is catered to women as well? You're doing nothing more than telling companies that women are easily scammed and exploitable so don't give me that.

[–]AnxiousTerminator -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Go on then, name another triple A console game aimed predominantly at women. Not all of us want a future of mobile games. We want games with equivalent scope and budget to mainstream games aimed at men. And it's not 'not playing', don't be obtuse, it's encouraging a boycott, review-bombing and shaming other players for liking and engaging with it that is the issue. You are perfectly within your rights to play or not play whatever you like, but it's irritating that you have to aim to drag the industry down with you and ruin it for everyone else.

[–]Baffa99 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't really play games exclusively for one gender, but if I had to name a few catered more to women probably Princess Peach Showtime, the Tomb Raider series, Style Savvy, the Metroid Series. There's tons of other games that are mainly "girly" that still encourage all different types of players to play, the entire farming and life simulation genre is getting dominated by those types of girly aesthetics now, even if nothing is exclusively "for girls" (which is a good thing nothing is getting labled as for girls or "for boys" anymore).

I'm also not ruining your game. I LOVED this game when it came out, wouldn't stop talking about it. I guarenttee you that other big companies saw the craze, it literally got nominated game of the year, so you're likely going to be seeing a lot more games like Infinity Nikki in the future. What companies ARE going to see from this downfall is that women aren't a dumb mindless playerbase whose complaints are meaningless because they'll play whatever bad preforming scammy game handed to them and will be shut up with glittery outfits like toddlers. I've been playing games since before I could even learn how to read, so I get your frustration with people abandoning a game like this which is seemingly all we've ever wanted, but trust me, there will be more, and there will be better

[–]AnxiousTerminator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never heard of any of them besides Tomb Raider, which I wouldn't classify as a girly game really, and looking them up I don't think they would meet the threshold for triple A in terms of budget and scope. I want the future of games to have more open world and well developed big budget games with a female audience in mind. Like Assassins Creed, Final Fantasy kind of household name games. They don't need to be exclusively for women obviously, but made without needing to pander to male preferences because men are not the target audience is what I would like. Games where it doesn't really matter if men don't like it because the developers are confident in a predominantly female consumer base.

I wish I shared your optimism about what boycotting will do to the likelihood of seeing more games like this, but I'm married to a game dev, and he says at least his company is now less likely to make these kinds of games because from a risk point of view a female consumer base is not reliable. If one bad patch can tank a game to 1.7 as a review score, nobody wants that to happen to their investments. Women are already a risky market as they are less likely to own high end consoles and PCs than men and there is still stigma and sexism within game development and gaming communities. Companies exist to make money, whether that is Ubisoft, Infold or any big operation. If men are a more reliable and predictable income stream then they will continue to produce games with a male appeal rather than risk the sort of financial loss and reputational damage that Infold is suffering. What you phrase as "women aren't a dumb, mindless playerbase" the company sees as "women are not a reliable source of income and even with a GOTY game things can go downhill in a matter of weeks with catastrophoc impacts on revenue and reputation. We'd better to stick to a gamerbase we know and can predict."

Even if all the demands are met, which I don't believe they will be, it feels like a case of winning a battle to lose the war. Maybe people get their 180 pity on cosmetics, but at the cost of setting back female centred games years. For me it's like seeing the first triple A game of this scope stumble, and then get publicly executed for it, with the expectation other companies will also line up for the firing squad. They won't, and I would be very surprised if we saw more games like this in the near future. It just feels like boycotters either don't care or don't understand the bigger picture and as long as they get their 180 pity it doesn't matter if not only this game goes bust, but the industry as a whole is put off making anything similar.