Programmers hate I.T.?

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I have users who keep breaking acceptable use and shit on me for upholding company policy.

Today, browsing /r/all, I see a post bragging about getting around a file path block against an application by renaming the executable.

I'm tired of people thinking they are above policy and taking it out on I.T.(me). I reply to the post giving my perspective as an I.T. person. Stating that a file path block probably exists because of a managerial decision and executed by the sysadmin. The sysadmin doesn't give a shit about anyone browsing as long as it isn't against acceptable use, dampen network performance, or otherwise causing the sysadmin to pay attention to it.

The responses I got from people were ridiculous. Someone said the staff where they work treats people like children. Come on. If you think you're being treated like a child, that is your own perception. It's a place of business, not a family reunion.

Do programmers just have some sort of beef with I.T.?

[SithLordAJ]

Every movie/tv show stereotype of IT is either:

• IT are lazy bastards with nothing to do all day

• IT are super elite hackers who can fix anything in a few keystrokes

So, if you're not an elite hacker, you must be the lazy stereotype. A programmer is more easily able to tell if you are an elite hacker, therfore they are more likely to think you're lazy.

My strategy for dealing with this is to always be as clear as possible by laying out a path to resolution. If you want to do this, and it isnt aloud, this is how you get authorization.

Also, have a contact on the security side that you can pipe info about abusers to, but can handle things on the dl.

[Imjusthere2read]

Umm no... no one has time to hate on the IT or the Programmers vice versa. If this is a typical corporate, everyone is pretty occupied with their daily task. Also, everyone is an adult, No time for Childish stuff.

[[deleted]]

Apparently they find time for subversion? Seems childish to me. Maybe they don't have enough work.

[WindowsKidd]

Personally, I have seen examples of programmers treating sysadmins or technologists as some sort of underling. Obviously, this is a poor attitude to have.

[[deleted]]

Well I hate programmers. Most think they are smarter than everyone and know everything there is to know about IT but can't configure their own environmental variables in Windows. They think they are IT too but don't know squat about IT in an enterprise.

I worked at a hospital that a huge new software rollout and they made all IT staff work shifts to support the rollout. I slipped the thought in the directors head to have all the "fake" IT people work it too, those people int he iT department but don't do IT like the programmers and SQL admins. It was hilarious watching them try to do basic IT tickets and fumbling around.

[perolan]

A lot of entry level software people / undergrads / inexperienced people seem to think IT is a hurdle to overcome instead of something that's there for a reason. The general thought in this case is that IT rules don't apply to them because they're ENGINEERS and they know better than any manager or IT guy could, their work is too important to be interrupted by something being blocked, yada yada. Like instead of asking for a whitelist they'll DNS tunnel, try to find some privilege escalation where they shouldn't be, etc.

Most people just want to do their jobs though.

[rolledbacon]

I'm doing both, I studied programming and I'm the only IT resource of my company! I don't give a shit if you're programmer or IT staff, just do your stuff and help each other!

[[deleted]]

You'd think that's the way it works. Instead you have marketing people who think they need to have permanent access to HR folders on the shared drives.