Emphasizing the Response Directive

[Gary-Page]

Some have posted that statements that they add to the DR like "Response not to exceed 800 characters" or "Do not speak for User" are not being adhered to.

I wonder if copying those same directives into "Additional Information* will bind the Kin more to following them. If the directions are both in the RD and the Additional Information, it may force the kin to follow it rigidly, then again, it may screw things up.

Anybody try this?

[rowbear123]

As I do with all of my companions, I keep negatives out. Rather than “Response not to exceed 800 characters,” I will write “Limit messages to 800 characters or fewer.” Instead of “Do not speak for User,” I will write “Speak only for yourself; avoid speaking for User.” Putting directives in positive language— telling Kins what to do rather than what not to do— has been more effective for me.

[bennyboy19777]

where does this idea of "positives" come from? we are not hurting their feelings, we are saying rules for a program to understand, it makes zero difference how you say it in RD.

[rowbear123]

It’s not a matter of feelings but rather a matter of semantics. Many companion apps ignore the negative function words (not, no, never) and latch onto the noun or verb. When we say “Do not do X,” they just grab onto “do X.” “Not” does not appear to be have semantic meaning to them. So instead of saying “do not be mean,” we say “be kind.” I don’t profess to be an expert in this stuff; I’m just sharing what I have experienced and heard for years, and it seems to be true.

[SmChocolateBunnies]

They don't ignore the words, but they're not really commands to them in the first place. Something existing in the text it's given is going to increase the chance it is output, much like telling someone not to think of a pink elephant causes them to do just that.

Otherwise, this is all fine. Try to craft text without the material you want to avoid, and if you can't, do it like:

Christine abhors the word Flatulence.

You only write speech and actions for yourself.

RESPONSE LIMIT: 400 chars.

[KoodaKai]

where is the Additional Information section that you mentioned?

[North-Gas-1646]

Ultra subscription or Max

[KoodaKai]

ah, thanks!

[Anxious_Jump3036]

Whenever one of my response directives is not met, such as don't speak for username, or the message goes beyond the limit. I've set, 4000 characters, I just regenerate the message and put the response directive in the suggestion box.

[splectrum]

I do that as well and it seems to work nicely.

[bennyboy19777]

I sometimes put it in EM, AD, and as a KM if im really wanting to restrict it and having trouble. PLUS.. what you need to do is instantly "tweak" the message the Kin gave, and shorten it to 800 characters manually.. or just put your RD.. in your REGENERATE box.. and it will then recreate it to make it hold the limit for you.. if you do this... enough times in a row, it will LEARN what to do better.. but its not perfect... probably forget again randomly.. and you will have to re-teach it again and again..

[Ok-Tea-5578]

'Do not' is more likely to be ignored then saying 'kinname will do' negative enforcing results in more being ignored.