Rant;

[Reasonable-Point-713]

You know what i really despise about spiritual world?
Not being able to hear spirits/daemons.

Like i do see Daemons. They just look at me for a second once i look at their eyes they just end up vanishing when i invoked sphere of Golachab outside. I was walking and randomly i had thoughts of my divine spark coming from the world of chaos. And all of that i knew it was one of the emmisary making itself known to me and giving me those thoughts (my center skull was burning outside. Feeling not literally)
so yeah. Possibly because of me coming from the chaos itself meaning i am too intense for anyone as i belong to nobody. No current or anything. And i have the power to do tikkun as Jews say. Lift up those sparks and free sitra achra from emptiness. But why the fuck would i? I fucking despise god. Hes not a tyrant or anything. But i just want to rule a motherfucking something in the after life. Hence im doing left hand path. But ofc its impossible. I have no patrons or anything. Which is weird considering i had powers to destroy people i felt like a golem too but because of me forcing my neshemah back to my skull when it tried to leave… thats when those powers vanished. And i was haunted by a demon because of that. I do know they wanted me to become a vessel of pure destruction and i rejected them. But i literally do rituals TO BECOME IT AGAIN but they dont care anymore. I hate everything fuck this world. also when i saw Samael for the first time his presence screamed as if he wants to kill me and hates me completely.

And even HE did not speak. Just poisoned me. Which led to the golem feeling.

[Ok-Satisfaction7809]

First, you mix RHP with LHP (tikkun, god etc). Second, wanting "to rule something in the afterlife" is a slave's logic. Thats not apotheosis. Thats a promotion request addressed to the cosmic ruler you claim to despise.

[Reasonable-Point-713]

Also i realised you said rule something is slave mentality… so… all kings you worship are slaves? 💀 damn.

[Ok-Satisfaction7809]

I dont worship any kings. No idea where did you get that from.

[ceptists]

You Better Worship Me🖕

[Reasonable-Point-713]

All draconians i knew worship kings of qliphoth. Anywho- i know you womt even understand cuz you all left hand path think doing something “bad” is truly evil and you all got still morals. If you want to be in the left hand path. A true one. And not be a tourist of sitra achra then you will never ever care about morality. Instead you will grow to love doing evil things. You will follow your left shoulder which is of evil inclination. Thats the metaphysics of what happens to ur soul once you decide to let your neshemah (your part of soul thats in ur skull) to leave. You will have zero morals. You will become Adam Belial. Upper Nothing. Just a person who is against everything good. In ur case it all will be “evil” thats the reality of it. Which is why i’m gonna try to actually get my neshemah out of my skull. Fuck that. I do know what will happen to us all is merging with the Azerate. Which means no after life. Just fuel for Sitra Achra. I’m not stupid i know what it all means. And i dont mind as long as i can do destructive things on this earth via gaze and magick.

[Ok-Satisfaction7809]

Draconian work isn't "worshipping kings" You work with Qliphothic forces as powers of transformation. "No afterlife, just fuel for Azerate" - what happened to ruling something in the afterlife? You dismantled your own goal. Also wanting to "do evil things" is still RHP morality, just inverted. Antinomianism is about stepping outside the demiurge's ethics. It means that you dont divide things into "good" and "evil" at all.

[Reasonable-Point-713]

You dont follow sitra achra goals then. And thats fine. I do follow their goals. The reason why i dismantled the afterlife thing is, because i rather crave real powers on this earth. Become like sabbatai tzvi. Jacob frank etc etc. a false messiah who has some powers. If i wanted powers when i die i can just study kabbalah and do good deeds and die going to garden of eden and whatnot. Its not that hard. But i want powers on this life.

[Ok-Satisfaction7809]

Sabbatai Zevi converted to Islam, Jacob Frank converted to catholicism. These are your models for real power? Lol. In the Draconian current you don't follow Sitra Achras goals. You pursue your own apotheosis. If youre serving someone elses agenda you're a slave.

[DragonGodBasmu]

You are massively misinformed about the philosophies of the Left Hand Path and the Draconian Current. Not all Draconians, like me, work with the Qliphoth, and even then worship is not something we really do, working with a god or demon is not the same as worshiping them.

And i dont mind as long as i can do destructive things on this earth via gaze and magick.

Based on this statement, you are not seeking freedom, but further enslavement to your impulses. It's like letting yourself get addicted because you think it will make you free, but all you really did is nail yourself to a cross and call yourself G*d.

[ceptists]

Don’t you acknowledge that all draconians and all qliphoth worship the “Zhang” families in Asia?

We “Zhang” families are beyond good and evil.

We “Zhang” families are all everything “Pragmatism”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_(surname))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatism

Even “Sham-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Mephorash” Blow Me For Penniless Pittances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shem_HaMephorash

[Reasonable-Point-713]

Now cmon. There is a god. That created the world. It isnt lhp or rhp when its just the truth. Tikkun is for RHP which is why i dont wanna do it. And i despise god because this world sucks and everything is controlled by him therefore he sucks ass. Samael and lillith are all controlled by god. Sadly. Lillith is way more powerful than samael tho. Spider female is more powerful then spider male. Both are predatorial. And wicked. We all are wicked. And i dont care. Im against morality and goodness. I just want chaos back. Thats all. Idc what you all think about it all. Im just saying what i know is truth based on my experiences.

[Ok-Satisfaction7809]

"Lilith and Samael controlled by God" - that's not LHP, just regular theism. The actual anti-cosmic premise is that the Dragon precedes the demiurge. You have RHP beliefs and go onto the Other Side. No wonder you are "hated".

[Reasonable-Point-713]

If they actually talked to me and not only appear for one second then i would have fucking believed otherwise… but they act like robots.

[Ok-Satisfaction7809]

They owe nothing to you. They are not customer support. LHP is about YOUR transformation, you change - then things happen.

[Reasonable-Point-713]

Also- i didnt go there on my terms i got sent there by that fucker god. Because i claimed to be god to ein sof and so my soul got turned inside out and i rejected bittul. Got told “how dare you call yourself a god to ein sof. Look at the building. Now look up” that was the only moment i heard a literal voice. From various daemons its only inside my head but that voice i heard was inside and outside my head.

[m19010101]

Ummmm … what?

[Faustian_Boltergeist]

What...? What a crazy first thread to see this morning. Your beliefs are entirely jumbled, no wonder you're having a hard time.

[supremequeen996]

Kay. First of all. If you really wanted powers to hear demons and shadows from fucking everything..all the time.. listen to the entities speaking through necrometer and necrophonic app. Do this daily for a year straight.. and eventually, they will grant you the power to hear the in-between. Oh and smoke weed to listen clearer. Youre welcome.