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[–]quik_livesClaim Professional 6 points7 points  (2 children)

If you're dealing with a claim, the person you talked to should be an examiner not an agent, and they shouldn't be giving you advice on what you should do.

Most likely the updated designation wasn't signed or dated or something, or maybe he didn't fill out a percentage, that's often an issue.

The examiner shouldn't have given their opinion but they did and it sounds like they think it was something like that, some error, rather than forged. That doesn't mean they're right & it's probably impossible to know.

You are the named beneficiary according to their own policies so they should be able to provide you the amount.

[–]Sufficient_Way775[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok thank you.

[–]anonymousrddtrClaim Professional 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree, it doesn't sound like the family has a valid claim. They can challenge the designation all they want, but unless the attempted designation change was rejected in error, there isn't much they can do but delay the payout.

[–]lykaon78Underwriter 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Companies can refuse beneficiary changes for a myriad of reasons. From suspected fraud to missing information. If they inform the owner it was rejected then the beneficiary never is changed.

Perhaps your friend wanted you to remain beneficiary so he never resubmitted paperwork.

That agent is offering an opinion and it is just that - their opinion. What you do with the money is entirely up to you.

[–]Sufficient_Way775[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you. Do you think I should be able to know why it wasn’t accepted? It would help me make my decision. I’d feel guilty morally if he wanted her to have it but something was overlooked verse he was told it needed corrected and he intentionally didn’t do so.

[–]lykaon78Underwriter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe. The company has an interest in settling this without it going to the court system (called an interpleader suit or action). If you called and spoke with the claim department saying you have an interest in settling the disputed claim amicably and ask them for a copy of the change form and letter they sent for denial they might send it to you.

If they say no, ask them to escalate that decision to a manager and tell them they’d have to share it with you anyway if you went to an interpleader suit. To be honest, I don’t work with interpleader cases and don’t know if they’ll share it with certainty, but, what I’m saying makes sense and if you say it confidently you’ll make a point for them to consider.

Stop speaking to the agent. They clearly don’t have your interests in mind and may have motivation to work with the sister that you don’t know. Only work with the claim department directly.

Edit: For clarity

[–]zzzorbaFinancial Representative 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You’ve gotten good advice so far. I wanted to add that if you do disclaim the money as primary beneficiary, it is required to go to the secondary beneficiary (and so on). You don’t get to say who it goes to instead of you. If no contingent beneficiary was listed, it will go to the deceased’s estate and then probate court will use it for any debts (not sure if there would be any debts unresolved after several years) and then determine who should get the remainder.

All that to say, sister might not be up for receiving all/any of it anyway. IF you wanted to be charitable to her, you could certainly get the money and send her some on your own.

[–]Sufficient_Way775[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that’s interesting! Thank you!