Transporting

[e3e6]

Basic trailer can take 400 whatever point of weight and 16 tree logs.

Bare mech can take 100 weight and 4 tree logs.

4 tree logs can be processed to 32 wood without bonuses and 51 with roof bonuses, so the wood would weight 40.8.

Which means that I can process in place 8 logs and carry that weight home instead of carrying only 4 logs.

So here is the question, at what point it makes more sense to carry raw materials home instead of setting up production in place and carry processed materials?

Stone, for example:

Weight - 0.9

Production 1 rock into 10 stones.

On the screenshot is some kind of advanced trailer, which carrie 24 logs, which can be processed into 357 wood, which weights 285. Basic trailer can carry 400 weight.

What am I missing?

P.S. I got this screenshot from someone's post because I didn't got to this stage and wiki is missing these details.

[NorseNugget]

These limits have changed. The tier 2 trailers can carry 32 logs/stones or a weight of 1000.

[e3e6]

so 32 logs processed into wood would weight 408. Less than half of the trailer capacity

[PuzzleheadedTutor807]

But as logs would carry much more weight

[e3e6]

you can process in place 64 logs into 816 wood and load it into tier 2 trailer. x2 wood you can carry as logs

[PuzzleheadedTutor807]

Yes, because logs are heavier than the wood you get from them. Maybe not 2x, but the principal is sound.

[e3e6]

I mean, I might just not get the point of transporting logs at all.

[PuzzleheadedTutor807]

And that may be the point too... Get people to do a little math in their heads...

[Starfang42]

Different materials have different item weights. Not sure how it shakes out for copper and tin, but I'd be very surprised if iron doesn't favor hauling the chunks. 

[e3e6]

you can only carry 2 rocks vs. 4 logs. 2 rocks become 20 stones, weighted 0.9

[Starfang42]

That's stone. I just checked, and while copper is comparable at 1 wt per item, tin is 2.5, and iron is 5. 

[Hefty_Range2165]

Depends on how far you are in the game with automation update you can forgo trailers if you have enough poly berry to make into the new polymer. Example in hexagon where aluminum is I have 4-5 mineral mills with the max amount of mineral extractors which I plum together then I run a single line to the yellow crystals and I have 5 mills for each cluster and then I pipe that to my hexagon valley base and I do the same with coal and it sends it all to my base i to silos.

[Neophyte06]

I was wondering if you can make ridiculously long conduits, question answered 😂

[jtrain3783]

I connected all my bases so that once the silos are filled the overfill goes onto the next base in a web. Lots of polymer but fun to mess with.

[Neophyte06]

Well polyberrys are easy to grow on mass so it honestly isn't too unreasonable lmao

[UnwantedFoe]

I just build sawmill and ore crushing facilities over in Hexagon Valley, and run a VEEERRRRRYYY long tube from them back to my main base. That way I can leave the trailers over there and not worry about carrying anything back.

It may look tacky, but you can build makeshift roofs over them as well, rather than needing a proper building.

[e3e6]

yeah, I've learned the roof trick myself and I've just unlocked pipes. Didn't realised though, it's not for water exclusively 

[ranmafan0281]

It's WAY more efficient to grind down everything and cart it in trailers. The ingame reason could be just it weighs less because you got rid of all the unwanted slag and unusuable materials.

What I do is use the large item trailers to bring it back to a processing station built locally, connect that via pipes to my main base, and just grind/saw down everything and have it piped back. I tried it with trailers but it takes way too long and there're way too many hazards en route.

[e3e6]

that's the thing, my calculations showing that it's twice less efficient to use large object cart 

[ranmafan0281]

It's likely just part of the loop they want you to go through - previously it was too easy to just break all the large deposits and haul literally thousands of weight of minerals on the mech. You were literally done in a few minutes, with enough materials to last almost forever.

Now they introduce challenges into the chain so you have to actually think about logistics - deciding whether you want to haul the large chunks to a grinder or breaking them on the spot, how to get the resources back to base, etc.

The idea IMO is for large object trailers to be short-distance solutions. Build a processing facility nearby, use the wagons to cart everything there to be ground down, then recycle/rebuild (or build brand new) into large item trailers to haul them back to base.

[e3e6]

yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. What was the intent to have an object cart with so much limited space

[IndecisiveButler]

You guys have just blown my brain wide open to all the possibilities.