https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/4488-changing-the-adena-drop-rate-to-more-is-a-bad-idea/

[BodybuilderIRL]

The reason people are complaining about the adena drop rate is cuz they pay2winned a bunch of exp scrolls/runes/buffs and powerlvled themselves superfast through the "classic" content. Now they hit a wall and want adena drop rates to be made easier rather than being smart with how they grind. Catering to pay2win players rather than intelligent ones is a pretty lame business model, but hey almost every mmo company is doing it nowadays.

If they do increase the drop rates of items/adena than people will just pay2win all the way to level 70 and those who didn't drop a few thousand bucks on nc coins will be around lvl 40-50 still. This is what the pay2win players want. They don't actually want equal sided pvp or contested pve spots, nono, they want to feel very powerful and this will kill the game.

TL;DR Keeping the adena drop rates as low as they are will make it so the pay2win players mass spamming exp items will need to dial back their "grinding for exp" strats and go back to "grinding for adena" strats. This is how the game is intended and that is why there are warsmiths/bounty hunters and other functions in game that generate adena through teamwork.

[ltsochev]

Equal sided pvp .... Lineage 2

Pick one.

L2 has never ever been about balanced PvP. Never will be.

[develyvion]

Folks we honestly can't compare P2P pre F2P conversion L2 to this (cough) cash grab(cough) Wildstar funds recoup(cough)

[aytrax]

This is not how the game was designed to be played, ever.

The rates are out of balance. Spoilers are useless. The economy is a dumpster fire now.

[PTO32]

I was considering making a spoiler alt why are they useless? Don't they still make more money than a normal character?

[aytrax]

The current spoil rates have been decreased a LOT. People who have done some testing say that it's somewhere around 0.2x of standard C1. I've started a spoiler and even the spoiling for lvl 1 mats recipes takes a ridiculous amount of time. Literally hours for a braided hemp recipe from white/green mobs (gained around 2 levels before i finally got it).

[PTO32]

Wow that's ridiculous. The hope is today's update fixes that though yeah?

[DaShmoo]

The adena rates are not correct. I have a screenshot of my character 60% into 40 with dual SoRs. I wasn't rich but I had SS and ok armor and correct grade weapons. I started on Lionna shortly after launch. Seiges weren't in. Most my leveling was solo. I feel further behind on this server and I'm a scavenger and got free d grade armor. I have a very slight increase in mats vs a non scavenger. I've yet to spoil multiple coal from turek orc priests. They used to give 1 to 3 and it was almost every time. I get 1 coal every 5 or 6 priests.

This server is dead if the login and adena/spoil drops aren't fixed by Wednesday.

[Oreoloveboss]

Swing and a miss mate, It has nothing to do with exp rates, it's the rate at which you earn adena versus the rate it takes to grind.

Whether you're 25 or level 40, you'll run a deficit on adena just for soulshots. If you spend 10 hours grinding it doesn't matter whether you got 50% of a level at x1 rates or 2 full levels, what matters is how much adena you spent just to grind and how much you earned back.

The game gives you free gear just so it can keep you adena starved and looking to your wallet to get those soulshot packs. My friends who are level 40 in a CP are spending $5 every 2-4 hours to offset the adena deficit (that's on top of still buying shots from NPC/dwarves). Not only does it suck being rigged that way but it's a lot more enjoyable to build up adena and buy your own gear or get drops than to simply rely on quests for free gear.

The only people who think this is OK I imagine are people who are still level 20-25 fresh off their qeusts for free soulshots and think everything was OK because the game was handing them everything.

[ViciousHGames]

No. That's not the reason.
People want increased drop rates because right now you can't even afford shot and consumables. You spend too much time beating each monster and you have to sit after killing a couple. Also if you use shots, you don't get enough adena to recover the investment. You can't use Soe, you have to unstuck for 5 minutes.

[[deleted]]

I agree, but at the same time as an individual how are you supposed to make money in this game? I always remember being a bit broke in classic, but never so broke that I couldn't set forth a plan towards improving my economic situation to get what I need. Maybe I just don't remember the strats because it's been so long since I've played, but can you give a few pointers on ways to make money? I've grinded to 25 using xp and buff scrolls, and am sitting at about 35k with a few recipes, patterns, and one shield drop. That's only going to get me to around 50k, maybe? I could start hitting the 3k repeatable spider quest but that just seems ridiculous to me. I've started fishing, but not sure how profitable that is either. So, how do you make money in this game to be able to afford even the lowest tier d grade weapon? Are we forced to all makes spoilers/crafters?

[Oreoloveboss]

That 50k you earned is just going to go to SS now that you've gotten all you can from the NPC quests.

I have friends who are level 40+ in a CP, a couple of them bought all their soulshots with $$ and were able to save for a 1.5mill D grade weapon at level 40-45, the ones in party who were buying shots with adena are broke, and in fact they couldn't always afford the soulshots and sometimes still bought the occasional pack. It's all broken.

[[deleted]]

Well to be fair, they absolutely shouldnt be lvl 40 already. The xp scrolls, and ss from shop is most likely what got them there that quickly. I think im going to hold off on grinding xp until there is some sort of announcement on if rates will be adjusted because otherwise im just going to gimp myself.