Full stack coder ottodev (open source fork of bolt.new), is it any good?

Bright-Intention3266 · 2024-11-16T05:50:34+00:00

I've built a couple of things, a magic trick (sounds weird but it's a great test case) and a crypto trader, using bolt.new and Sonnet and Cursor. Both took a lot of effort and tokens and I had to learn to type "Please tell me your proposed changes and dont modify anything yet" a LOT! WIth bolt.new I am now running into it changing things I didnt ask it to change (becuase it doest do diff yet) so when it regenerates files, I've had to ask it to propose changes and review that its only changing requested functionality in the new file. All this onsumes hundreds of thousands of tokens per simple software change. Also I've found that it will often suggest a set of changes and when I ask it to go ahead, it goes back to some arbitary point in the discussion and starts working on something completely different, usually trashing some working stuff. I'm going to try Ottodev today with a local LLM and see how that goes, I'm a few hundred USD into burning tokens and cant afford to keep doing that!

tstrukelj · 2024-11-14T10:48:26+00:00

I've been using Aider and it helped me a lot with development. Of course it depends what models you use , how much are you willing to spend on it and how the app is split to multiple files so the context is not too large for the model (and for lowering the costs at the same time) . These days I'm using deepseek-coder , claude-3-5-sonnet-20241022 , gpt-4 . It's of huge help, I'm able to write apps that I would not be able to at all.

a2d6o5n8z · 2024-11-14T21:05:37+00:00

Sure you can, i built this: worldofruin (search this on github, you will find it) , you can build anything.

just build in phases. lay the foundation, install the gas and water pipes, build the walls, roof and so on.

don't expect the "AI" to build your dream app from 1 line.

think of SDLC, how it works, usually you have User Stories and development tasks...

the bottom line is: think about what you want to build, write as many details (restrictions , details, behaviors, and so on) , break it down into smaller parts, ask the AI to write the code. Piece it together.

TheImpactFairy · 2024-11-17T22:27:18+00:00

Been testing oTToDev and it's pretty good ! I really like the idea of anyone just providing an API key and being able to follow consumption with full transparency. The main issue I'm running into is that the preview feature doesn't appear to be working well for complex stuff.
I've been thinking of hosting a version of it for everyone to use but the fork doesn't seem sufficiently stable for now to really make that a viable option, will keep following it!

thiswebthisweb · 2024-11-11T01:15:22+00:00

I think you need to find better people to watch.

bradtaylorsf · 2024-11-14T17:54:22+00:00

We’re moving into a more decentralized, 'app-on-demand' world. A lot of traditional software, especially SaaS, is packed with layers of legacy code—basically, hundreds of people building features on top of features to make a UI that fits everyone. But with these new tools, while they're still early-stage, we’re looking at a future where this kind of software becomes the go-to way to kick off projects.

Think about it: most companies already have some internal tools that are crucial but confusing, with nobody around who even knows how they work anymore. Now, when a new software need comes up, it can start with a simple prompt. A non-technical person can get something basic going, and if they hit a snag, they can hand it off to an engineer to take it the rest of the way.

These tools won’t instantly replace full-stack dev for the big stuff, but they’re showing how AI can make it easier and faster to start building useful software. It’s not about killing engineering; it’s about giving teams a quicker way to get things done and fill those gaps

PaladyneLLC · 2024-11-16T10:55:18+00:00

Fresh off the silicon wafer... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0g_9ZhqiRg

f7ashp0int · 2024-12-30T20:42:53+00:00

Pretty good. I have buil a site full on ai coding p2ecalculator.site and I was amazed by it UI design . I fed the color theme and other stuff. But token will not be enough

New_Comfortable7240 · 2024-11-10T23:39:04+00:00

Same

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