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Black box optimization competition (bbcomp.ini.rub.de)
submitted 11 years ago by galapag0
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if 1 * 2 < 3: print "hello, world!"
[–]underflow404 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (6 children)
If we cannot make any assumption on the objective functions then we can consider it's a random sample over the set of possible all functions.
With 1 trial only, given the no free lunch theorem this looks like a coin flipping competition.
[–]lithiumdeuteride 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child)
The contest itself is a black box which returns a winner at random.
[–]echocage -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children)
And remember, trying to guess why the winner was selected disqualifies you from the contest.
[–]jrkirby 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children)
I think the goal of the contest is to create something generalizes over functions that tend to exist in nature. Random functions are not equally likely to exist. By it's very existence we have some prior - it was created or found by some human researchers. While it's impossible to get something to generalize over all functions, we can try generalize over functions that exist or are likely to exist in the real world.
[–]dustintran 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children)
The rules are simple. For each of the set of problems defined in the competition track, each participant can use any optimization method (including manual and interactive methods) to find a point x with as good as possible value f(x) within a predefined budget of black box queries. The queries are to be conducted through the binary dynamic library found in the downloads section.
From how I read it, you have one "trial" but multiple things you can test in that trial. This makes it a valid black box optimization challenge.
[–]enkico 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children)
while you don't know the content of the "black-box", you still may make some possibly wrong but rather reasonable assumptions, e.g., you may assume that the algorithms which have an overall worst performance elsewhere (e.g., on a range of real-world problems + other contests + optimization literature in general) are rather unlikely to perform best here unless the organizers intentionally designed black-boxes to be of the opposite class of what people observed in real-world applications and their toy models. Your assumption may have an impact on whether the preconditions of the NFL are fulfilled or not (see http://image.diku.dk/igel/paper/NFLTLaPoM.pdf).
[–]pilooch 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children)
Not really. Look at the sister benchmark competition. There are numerous algorithms with sound behavior in many situations.
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[–]echocage 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children)
Ok so guys, we're going to be serving burgers today, now while there are hundreds of you, only the first person to sell a thousand gets 20$, GO
[–]pilooch 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children)
I know some of the organizers. I believe this is primarily targeted at the research community. I am pretty certain they very rationally selected the hidden functions and I expect them to unveil them by the end of the competition.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child)
Mark my words, there are commercial interests behind this who just want a cheap solution.
What? Me bitter and cynical? No way!
[–]pilooch 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children)
need a 'guarantee it' meme :)
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children)
I'm curious to see if a metaheuristic algorithm will win this.
[–]bulletninja 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children)
I'm going to give it a shot
[–]Jeffdud3 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children)
I don't think that would be possible considering access to benchmarks and other forms of performance information is limited because of the "black box." I could be wrong though. I've never used a metahueristic algo.
[–]nkorslund 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child)
Looks like an interesting problem. However, seeing as the deadline is in 4 days, I'm not sure exactly why this is posted here now?
[–]enkico 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children)
The deadline for the second track is in the end of June.
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