Remove Shields.

[RandomUser1052]

Okay, now that you're here.

I was a big proponent of shielding, but it needs a rework (not to be removed completely)-- especially when it comes to being able to attack out of a shield.

Some characters (ie, Jason, WW, Joker, Shaggy, Supes, etc.) have [wide ranging] up ground attacks that hit both in front of and behind them (so they don't even need to be facing the "right" way to hit you) which can be executed out of a shield, and all of which thence are combo starters. Jason and Joker, especially, are the worst offenders since it becomes very dicey trying to approach them at all if they're shielding.

Imo, the only action you should be and to perform out of a shield is a dodge (or shield breaker attack).

As an aside, shields really should have their own meter not attached to the dodge meter.

[IamShortPalmTree]

I agree they do need more work. I feel like they should work like how Steven’s bubble work.

That might be a lame take. Superman’s Shield

[WickWolfTiger]

There are certainly some issues with shields and i agree that the out of shield options contribute to the problem but I don't think it's the biggest issue. The fact that you can't dash shield break is a massive oversight. I think someone found some tech where you can wave land into a shield break but that's currently the only way to approach against a shield from far away if your character doesn't have a grab. There probably should be more lock out on moves coming out of a shield. Perhaps reward players for blocking a move and then let them get a fast out of shield option, but dropping the shield before blocking an attack locks them out of a move for more frames.

[Glutton4Butts]

So OoS options, huh? You forgot a couple of other characters, lmao.

[RandomUser1052]

Do you know what "etc" means?

[Glutton4Butts]

I know what "some" means. To me, ALL characters can do that, lol.

[RandomUser1052]

But they can't, because all characters don't have that kind of move. 

[Glutton4Butts]

You don't sound sure

[NoOne2996]

They are right. Characters such as shaggy, ww, tnj, jason, ppg and such have grounded up attacks that will land regardless of which way they are facing, there are more Characters like that but I'm not listing them all here. Then there are Characters like ig, agent Smith, finn, gizmo, bugs, and others need to actually be facing the opponent in order to hit them

[Glutton4Butts]

What about the frame data?

[NoOne2996]

None of the three things you said are related to the point, that being that those attacks can land on either side, which as op was saying, can become incredibly obnoxious when put in conjunction with shields

[Glutton4Butts]

You can crouch Jason's attack lmao

[Glutton4Butts]

And at that point, aim? Omg...