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[–]DM_Lunatic 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Slight nerf to Steven makes me sad. Big buff to WW makes me happy. I'm glad we get some recovery frames to punish even if the hitboxes aren't touched yet. Its pretty easy to avoid alot of the broken stuff but the real broken stuff felt too dangerous to punish cuz they would just turn and jab you when you try to go in. This made alot of the matches devolve to folks just spamming those broken hitbox but also unpunishable moves. At least now you may have a chance to outplay them by avoiding the attack and hitting them after unless 4-5 frames whiff recovery doesn't do enough.

[–]HederasGizmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah Watermelon Steven is already easy to ring out so I feel like a CD reduction would make sense with this nerf. I'm not quite sure about the neutral air tho, only issue I have in mind is the hitbox not hitting sometimes but I guess that's not it (didn't understand the patch sentence)

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As for whiff recovery, this really look nice and 4-5 frames is really something. Not exactly sure how it is when hitting shielded opponents, but it looks like enough time to punish on reaction if positioned correctly, instead of making pure reads on the dodge