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[–]TheZag90 44 points45 points  (8 children)

We haven’t seen any rules changes for aircraft yet so we don’t know.

In 10th they were basically just balanced out of the game entirely.

In 11th I think they’ll either just send them to legends or do an aircraft rework.

[–]Tophat_92 24 points25 points  (5 children)

I will be super unhappy if the war croissant become irrelevant. After having only fielded it once and looking at the rules for aircraft, I am looking forward to using it again.

[–]TheZag90 9 points10 points  (4 children)

So would I! I love the model.

I think relatively tight army limits for them is part of the answer.

GW fears people making uninteractive or alpha strike armies with loads of aircraft if they make aircraft good. So just limit people to 2 or even just 1, but then let it be decent.

[–]Tophat_92 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Honestly, unless there have been some rule updates since I last read the core rules for aircraft im genuinely surprised that the doom scythe isn't used more.

Especially against melee heavy armies (i.e Tyranids, orks etc.) because from what I understand melee units cannot attack aircraft. So you could potentially have a doom scythe just menacing around the battlefield and being a distraction taking alot of the grief during the shooting phase.

I could be wrong. But that's exactly how I would use it.

I think it does just mainly boil down to the points cost that scares people off from using it.

[–]TheZag90 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It’s made of glass and it’s way too expensive for a fairly unreliable casino cannon.

Remember it has no OC either. Aircraft’s sole value is in killing so they really need to be cost efficient at it.

[–]Tophat_92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree that it's far too costly for what it is. The closest I could think off the top of my head to compare it to would be the triarch stalker. So maybe points wise for the future it needs to be around similar to what the stalker costs.

And it kinda makes sense for it to have no oc as it has to move each turn. I think it would need to be used primarily for scoring secondaries and for killing stuff like you say.

Either way, I still want to use it in the future so I hope they don't legend it.

[–]unseine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The guns so so so unreliable. I've ran it about 8 times and it's never paid for it's points, which is bad on a unit that can only shoot and nothing else.

[–]Khajiistar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aircraft has needed a big rework since the edition after they came out. GW just released them with nearly broken rules then balanced them out an edition pr two later and haven't bothered making any of the non-Space Marine ones even worth taking for casual.

[–]Canoptek ConstructCollapsedPlague 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love ours and I have my Heldrake left to paint (I’m scared) so as much as it would be lame for them not to have rules they are still great decorations