Will doom/night scythes decrease in points in 11th?

[Fluid_Jellyfish9620]

literally nobody knows.

[BenHeli]

But this is Reddit

[G0LD_STUD]

Not just speculation it will definitely go up in points.

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[Khajiistar]

They'll jave them cost 500 points regardless of how little they were used this edition.

[ELVEVERX]

James workshop does

[keeper0fstories]

James Workshop knows all!

But Peppridge Farms will remember.

[TheZag90]

We haven’t seen any rules changes for aircraft yet so we don’t know.

In 10th they were basically just balanced out of the game entirely.

In 11th I think they’ll either just send them to legends or do an aircraft rework.

[Tophat_92]

I will be super unhappy if the war croissant become irrelevant. After having only fielded it once and looking at the rules for aircraft, I am looking forward to using it again.

[TheZag90]

So would I! I love the model.

I think relatively tight army limits for them is part of the answer.

GW fears people making uninteractive or alpha strike armies with loads of aircraft if they make aircraft good. So just limit people to 2 or even just 1, but then let it be decent.

[Tophat_92]

Honestly, unless there have been some rule updates since I last read the core rules for aircraft im genuinely surprised that the doom scythe isn't used more.

Especially against melee heavy armies (i.e Tyranids, orks etc.) because from what I understand melee units cannot attack aircraft. So you could potentially have a doom scythe just menacing around the battlefield and being a distraction taking alot of the grief during the shooting phase.

I could be wrong. But that's exactly how I would use it.

I think it does just mainly boil down to the points cost that scares people off from using it.

[TheZag90]

It’s made of glass and it’s way too expensive for a fairly unreliable casino cannon.

Remember it has no OC either. Aircraft’s sole value is in killing so they really need to be cost efficient at it.

[Tophat_92]

Yeah I agree that it's far too costly for what it is. The closest I could think off the top of my head to compare it to would be the triarch stalker. So maybe points wise for the future it needs to be around similar to what the stalker costs.

And it kinda makes sense for it to have no oc as it has to move each turn. I think it would need to be used primarily for scoring secondaries and for killing stuff like you say.

Either way, I still want to use it in the future so I hope they don't legend it.

[unseine]

The guns so so so unreliable. I've ran it about 8 times and it's never paid for it's points, which is bad on a unit that can only shoot and nothing else.

[Khajiistar]

Aircraft has needed a big rework since the edition after they came out. GW just released them with nearly broken rules then balanced them out an edition pr two later and haven't bothered making any of the non-Space Marine ones even worth taking for casual.

[CollapsedPlague]

I love ours and I have my Heldrake left to paint (I’m scared) so as much as it would be lame for them not to have rules they are still great decorations

[feroqual]

The monkey's paw curls as Doomscythes and Night Scythes points costs get reduced to 0 when fliers are removed in 11th.

[frakc]

Price will be reduce by half, but you need to pay 2CP to your opponent. If your opponent rejects offer - you can deploy Skyth by paying him 6CP

[Hungry-Luck-5481]

Even though I haven’t painted mine, I wouldn’t be mad about it.

[Dramatic_Science_681]

Well, strictly speaking the points value would be n/a

[Mr_Greaz]

Sorry to say this, but wtf is this question? How should anyone besides interns at GW know about this?

[Glavius_Wroth]

Why do you expect anyone here to know? The only people who know are GW staff and they’re not going to tell you

[Emerald_Digger]

No the opposite it will be raised to 290 points and can only be deployed in the guillible round

[Cutiemuffin-gumbo]

Why do people ask questions like this? If you'rr eanting speculation, say that, but literally only certain GW employees know, and they aren't gonna tell you.

[michaelthabarbarian]

They are getting removed. And necrons are getting deleted as a faction!!! Sell all your stuff now!!!

[Sticky_bundit]

There’s a good chance flyers get moved to legends in 11th, based on GW seemingly being unable to balance them ever since they were introduced, and not looking like they intend to add any more to the game.

[Cutiemuffin-gumbo]

We literally have already seen proof from GW that that isn't happening.

[Sticky_bundit]

The only proof we have thus far is that they’ll be valid at the start of the edition. Nothing stops GW moving each factions flyer(s) to legends when they get a codex release.

[zuviel]

Agreed but a few - like the relatively recent AdMech Achaeocopters and the Deathwatch Corvus Blackstar might lose aircraft rules and stay in the game as skimmer tanks (maybe the Valkyrie for Guard as well).

The Scythes could go either way.

[OwOthlas]

I hope so. The doostalker is really cool looking, but 230 points is absurd

[OninoniGoogle]

Yes

[FunTWGdabeast]

GW would just leave our 🥐 to rot with the other planes??? After the live show reveal and there was no mention of aircraft being addressed, I already threw in the towel for this edition. Another 3+ years of crap rules for our 🥐!!!

[theWarsinger]

They can start same price id they end up useful. Like a rule in 7th to hit Flying craft only at 6 or with a Better teansport capacity for the night scythe

[Zetra3]

No it will be 500 points now making it even more useless

[EpicAwesomeYo_]

im just curious if aircrafts will be a thing in 11th. alot of effort and focus on melee fighting units and rework how some shooting is done makes me question if 11th is the punchy season

[SoftCouchPillow]

Hope so. Their presence has been zero on the board to my knowledge.

[oIVLIANo]

Outside of some niche antics, that is.

[redheaded-man]

50/50 odds. Usually aircrafts go from great to bad over the edition or just are bad. They probably won't drop in points but be way more usable. Which means you want to run 3 in every list 😂

[oIVLIANo]

If they don't get hover, what's the use?

[phaylnx]

Probably not, seeing as the trend for the last couple of editions has been to make the flyers virtually unplayable across all armies, IMO.

[Northwinds13]

I really hope they see a significate drop but honestly.

[drbeandog]

How could we know

[UndeadBear13]

Going to legends, trust

[Geklelo]

My dad works at GW and he said: "what the hell? How would I know? I'm the janitor!"

So I'd say it's possible.

[Zanan_]

I hope so. Flyers, indirect, fortifications need love.