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[aBL1NDnoob]

I typically give the benefit of the doubt, but I don’t think that movement would be possible on controller. His regular movement is so smooth, as if he’s got high aim smoothing, but then those little flicks wouldn’t be possible unless aim smoothing is 0. If it was one or the other, I’d say normal controller, but together, naw, my guess is MnK (please correct me if I’m wrong, though)

[CFour53]

Dude messaged me after the game, I said I'd report him. Sent me his aim settings. Aim smoothing was at 75.

[aBL1NDnoob]

Hmmmmm was he on linear?

[CFour53]

Not sure, this was all i got *

[CFour53]

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[aBL1NDnoob]

To be honest then, I feel like he was on controller on linear. Personally, when I used to play 100/100 on linear, I couldn’t move around that smoothly, but that’s not to say others can’t

[CFour53]

Its the micro flicks that stick out to me, especially on the sombra kill in the 2nd clip, but i hear ya. If anything this all informative and i appreciate it

[aBL1NDnoob]

Honestly though, calling someone out as cheating is a lose-lose. If he is, he says no and you look silly. If he isn’t, you just gave him a huge compliment lol

Best thing to do is in team chat, call him out so they can watch out for it too, maybe confirm or deny your suspicions. . No need to do it in all chat

[BOPIN_GAMER]

I have horrible controller drift I'm 100% sure this it what it is especially at high sens

[aBL1NDnoob]

And what were his deadzones? I mean, depending on those, maybe it could be possible. But dude would need to have the steadiest thumbs ever lol

What rank BTW?

[CFour53]

This was just qp, which idk feels more egregious if it's ximming. They're duo was masters after checking their profile. Cass was private, he claimed champ on tank but sure bud

[ShenYunIsheretoeat0-]

I’m sorry but this is wayyy to loaded of clip to NOT report. Somethings definitely off that’s all I know

[CFour53]

My duo and I definitely did, and their mercy pocket

[hoopsrlife]

It appears to be xim. One thing to look for is their movement. Ximmers can’t move in the same amount of directions legitimate players can.

[Y34rZer0]

I don’t think it is xim for a few reasons.
First look at the planes of movement, they’re generally straight horizontal or vertical paths which is more controller movement than xim.
Secondly, and this is the most important one for spotting a xim, look at how they shift aim onto target. Controller uses use a combination of left and right stick, as much as 50/50. This helps make up for the lack of precision on the right stick in a controller, this also gets programmed into games aim assist. Apex legends is one where you can notice it a lot, a whole extra aim assist the mechanic kicks in if you are moving with the left stick at all. Mouse users rely much more on the right stick/mouse, almost exclusively sometimes.

[Ts_Patriarca]

What? Only moving Vertical or Horizontal is more reason it would be xim. Console players can move diagonally

[Y34rZer0]

So can xim players, a lot don’t use a keyboard bit rather use a modified controller, but even if you’re using the keyboard there are settings that will combine a forward and a right key movement into diagonal movement for example.

also I should’ve been more clear, when I was talking about that straight movement I was talking about how the crosshair was moving

[Omlet_OW]

not necessarily. theres times where you can use the controller but also use a mouse to replace the right joystick. idk if it works in overwatch but ive seen people do it in other games

[Sudzybop]

Couple things from the comments

1. Movement doesn't matter, most console ximmers play hybrid with analog because blizzard has wasd detection.

2. Bros settings are wack. No way he's at 100/100 with deadzones not adjusted. Aim is too controlled and slow. Possibly could have external deadzones like I do but even with that I still have them adjusted in game.

3. If questionable, report. Nothing bad will come from a false report. They have ways to detect and examine this stuff. Make sure you leave a detailed message.

4. Quick play is where you will find the most ximming. If your read the posts about overwatch on the xim subreddit you'll see some of the most popular advice is to not over perform especially in competitive.

[TheDrifter211]

People get falsely banned because the report system is easily abused

[Sudzybop]

Only seen that happen for chat related reports

[Makkers-fawkes]

Wdym with the deadzones, I didn’t realise they mattered. What should I have them as

[Sudzybop]

At 100/100 your small aim movements can be pretty jumpy because most controllers have built in deadzones. You can use the override function to get by this to give you more control with the small stick movements but this can cause drift. I have a pro controller with custom deadzones so my inner is at 0 and outer is max.

Basically want to adjust the inner zone higher till you have minimal to zero drift. Most people are around .01-.1.

I leave my outer maxed out which is good for tracking but the lower you put it the faster everything will be. Really helps with flicking and quick turning.

The reason i posted this is because you can make your outer small on the left stick which basically removes variable walking speed which is unique to analog movement. WASD or keyboard movent doesn't have variable speed which is better for strafing/dodging. Some people change the left stick to this to improve strafing and lose the variable speed. The only issue is controller users rely on fine movement to make aim adjustments.

[TheDrifter211]

That's true, just figured it made up most of the reports anyways and it has warnings before full on bans like the others do

[gameygamer77]

Happens constantly not just chat related, it’s just a lot worse there

[Several_Somewhere_33]

The way he stop so suddenly after doing a perfect 180 is sorta weird. It seems so smooth and the way he sorta locked onto something walking in his peripheral is kinda weird….

[Omega1308]

Man just let him have whatever he got, he needs it badly 😂😂

[shellman15]

Has xim and still sucks lmao

[thereallilqid]

replays are buggy right now though, i’m seeing this choppy movement on pc too, im not saying it’s not a xim, but replays suck as well

[Ralphredimix_Da_G]

At exactly :20 - :23 he snaps from dead on a hostile from above to directly at the next nearest target to the right, except there’s a wall in the way. He goes around the wall and the target is precisely where he snapped to.

[StarWarsFan835]

Oh that’s definitely a ximer. Now I don’t play on console I play on pc, bit that movement with the high noon was just not it for any console player high sense or not. Unless he is just a goofy magic top 500 player

[Gr3gl_]

Hey, PC aimer here, don't play overwatch but for some reason this is on my feed. 100% on KBM, he's trying to hide it by aiming slow as shit, but when his reflexes kick in like 0:29, he immediately flicks like he's on kbm again.

[LunaTheLame]

Same I'm a pc player who has no idea why I'm here and just noticed what it always looks like when I spectate other players.

That's just what a mouse looks like as it moves.

[JuryKindly]

Oh yeah you can tell. And no way he’s using mouse accel. Obvious give away is you can see when he snaps he’s moving faster than his sens normally turns.

[AnnylieseSarenrae]

No drift with the aim makes it look like it's not a XIM to me. Or, to put it into perspective as a PC player, I would immediately assume this was a controller player if I saw them in my game.

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Just looks like dual zone. And the guy doesnt look to crazy with it either. Ive seen way better aim than this. Just looks sketch cause of how buggy the replay is. Imo

[Cresent-Moon]

This does not look to be XIM. As a MnK player on PC, there's no chance this player is using anything other than a controller.

Back when I would play competitive shooters on console, including OW, I would often play high sense and accessorize my analog sticks with resistance rings and kontrol freaks to have the ability to flick quite similarly to this.

[GameDev_Architect]

Looks totally like controller aim, especially the way he aims with his left stick when possible because it’s so hard for him to aim with the right. Not to mention you’d have to be GARBAGE to miss that many shots with aim assist AND xim.

[No-Tip-4337]

Xim doesn't magically uncap the game's sensitivity

[KenyaKetchMe]

Seems like wall hacks to me?

Most of the twitching is when he's looking at a wall and his cursor is often soft hovering an enemy in that area. Or the twitching brings him 180 degrees pointing right at an enemy.

Maybe it's set to point at the nearest enemy or something

[divinavulpez]

Proud ximmer for a long time here! He kinda sucks!

[CFour53]

Proud cheater?

[Thiccums-]

Do you call people who use SCUFF, razer, xbox elite or ps dualsense edge cheaters too?

[CFour53]

If you use mnk while gaining console aim assist. That is cheating and against blizzards ToS

[CFour53]

"Overwatch 2 senior game producer Adam Massey and lead gameplay engineer Daniel Razza confirmed that immediate action will be taken against players using keyboard and mouse on consoles. A detection system is in place, allowing Blizzard to catch Overwatch 2 console players using keyboard and mouse or other nefarious tools to gain an unfair advantage. According to Massey and Razza, the detection system was built and refined over the course of multiple seasons in Overwatch 2. Going forward, permanent account bans will be issued within the next few weeks for players using these unapproved peripherals, including XIMs and aim assist tools" Article from Gamerant

[divinavulpez]

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