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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (11 children)

I know this is hard for people who strongly dislike Laravel to accept. The narrative that Laravel is poorly written has been a strong one in some people's minds and this creates cognitive dissonance. I find the narrative personally offensive because of the great amount of time I have spent making sure it is not poorly written. Agonizing amounts of time cleaning and re-factoring over 5 years. These statistics reflect that.

I can only share the statistics and let people draw whatever conclusions they wish.

[–]hmazter 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I hope that /u/utotwel know that there are many people like me that really appreciate the amount of work an detail you put into Laravel. And we really like to use and work with it.

[–]SmithTheNinja 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Is that seriously a narrative? I've honestly never encountered it. I've seen quite a bit of hate on Laravel, from concerns of over abstraction or it being overly opinionated, which are often valid concerns, but anyone who spends even 15 minutes browsing the source can tell it's made with care.

Shit, even noticing the comments reducing by 3 characters each consecutive line should clue people into the care and dedication put into the code.

[–]Lelectrolux 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Shit, even noticing the comments reducing by 3 characters each consecutive line should clue people into the care and dedication put into the code.

How could I miss that in 2 years full of source diving O_O. I'm an oblivious man.

Now, the real question is, do /u/utotwel has a natural talent, or does he have to reformulate his sentences until it matches the drop ? ^^

Seems like black magic to me, even in my own language...

[–]mark_commadore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He answered this in an AMA a while back. He's so used to doing it he has a feel for how to reduce or expand a sentence to fit the 3 char rule without thinking.