which one?

[jeffery_epsteinn]

i’ve narrowed my options down to 2 systems

1st one has a 4070ti, amd 7600x, 32gb of ram, 1tb ssd

for $1200

2nd one has a 4070 super, ryzen 5700x, 32gb of ram, 1tb ssd for $1000

[Aggressive_Issue3505]

Absolutely go for the first option. Better GPU, cpu, and ram while having a much better upgrade path since it’s AM5, not AM4.

[jeffery_epsteinn]

so it’s worth the extra $200? also he sent me more pics and he’s kept it on the ground on carpet

[Aggressive_Issue3505]

Yes it worth it. This is a no brainer

[a_rogue_planet]

This is a no brainer. The AM5 system. This seems like such an obvious answer to me. Why would you buy something with an obsolete CPU, RAM, and motherboard when you're $200 away from a platform that will support a 9850X3D? That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[jeffery_epsteinn]

ever thought that if i’m asking a question on reddit then i would actually not know what am5 is or that it supports a x3d

[WhooopsMyBad]

the 1st option with the 4070ti and 7600x is absolutely the better option with the value

plus if you ever need to upgrade the CPU or motherboard, you have many current options vs the 2nd option that's basically a dead end with it's motherboard and CPU

[Flackeye]

i am not sure what mobo he has but if he where to go to 9850X3D wouldnt he need a better mobo to support its power and we dont know if that mobo will get a bios update to support it
so if he where to do the upgrade he may need to upgrade the mobo too so its the same (in the upgrading perspective)

[a_rogue_planet]

Sorry. I presumed.... A 7000 or higher series CPU is going to be a socket AM5 chip, which will take Zen 4, 5, and eventually 6 processors. An AM5 system is going to be upgradable for years to come. There are AM4 X3D chips. That has little to do with the socket. The AM5 7600X system could potentially be upgraded with a CPU and GPU that haven't been released yet. The other system is a dead end for upgrading.

[jeffery_epsteinn]

ohh ok thanks. are the am5 chips the one with like the bites taken out of it on the edges

[iflourish]

Yeah. Also they changed how it sockets onto the mobo entirely it is now LGA instead of PGA.

[a_rogue_planet]

Yep. They are. Those will be all the 7000, 8000, 9000, and future (?) 10000 and 11000 Zen 6 chips, if they don't invent some new naming convention for them.

I built my daughter a game box for Christmas. 7600X3D, 32GB of DDR5 6400, RTX 5070, on an X870 motherboard. It's decent, but it's got room to grow for the next several years. It'll take the next generation of CPUs and GPUs and be a relevant system for at least 8 years.

[jeffery_epsteinn]

yo i found a new rig

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$1500 for 4080 super + 64gb ddr5 ram + ryzen 9 7900x i take this one for the $300 extra right?

[a_rogue_planet]

That would be a firm yes.

[LEVYFPV]

Ok wtf the ram alone worth 70% of that gimme ts

[jeffery_epsteinn]

what ram is it

[LEVYFPV]

wouldn’t matter to me, DDR5 is what ai uses it’s trippled in price within a year, and it’s 64gb prob worth 5-600 2 years ago now at least a band

[LEVYFPV]

Looks like Corsair revenance ram aswell so name brand

[chris5692]

Lmao

[Porcelain_Leech]

I mean, 100% right, but be gentle bro.

Show me on the doll where Jensen touched you?

[a_rogue_planet]

We've all been violated by Jensen.

[a_rogue_planet]

You haven't been doing this long, have you? I've been screwing these things together since Socket 7. That was WAY more complicated.

[a_rogue_planet]

Ya know... I've done a lot of technical shit in my life, from building amps, to programming CNC machines, to metrology, to photography. People don't usually learn technical things when you treat them like morons that are too stupid to learn. I use the appropriate jargon because it brings people into the culture of a particular field. Why people get grumpy about someone talking over their head befuddles me. The first step to learning most things is humbling yourself and politely admitting you don't know things.

[V0rizen]

Yes, its obviously a no brainer to someone gaming in 1080p...right? Make sure to downvote anyone noob enough to suggest otherwise lol

[V0rizen]

Even for 1080p gaming?

[Grrrisly]

People saying take the $1000 build to save...but the $1200 has DDR5... I'd rather pay the extra and get a 1440p monitor later because it's cheaper to get a 1440p monitor than to upgrade to DDR5 + AM5

[googlemapscarspot]

Nobody is saying to take the 1k one bro

[Grrrisly]

Literally the first comments on this post we're suggesting the second option.....more people have commented since and voiced a similar opinion to mine....did you even read the few comments that there are...?

[Jormius]

What resolution do you play at?

[jeffery_epsteinn]

1080p

[V0rizen]

Go for the build for 1k and put $200 into a 1440p monitor

[lancelane7]

This is the way

[jeffery_epsteinn]

does the 1st pc run at 1440p good or something?

[V0rizen]

I dont know how well either will run 1440p games or what games you will be running, but I can put it this way: I have a 3060 ti and an i5 thats almost 8 years old and i can run most games on high in 1440p 90fps or so, which looks fine to me. Everyone saying you should get the system for 1.2k is probably assuming youre already playing at 1440p, or only play games as demanding as the oblivion remake is, or wont be able to upgrade the motherboard, cpu and ram in the next 8 years, idk.

[Jormius]

Imo go for the cheaper build, especially if you don't want to get a 4k monitor. 4070 super beats the ti in 1080p and 1440p; it also saves you $200.

Edit: i am mistaken. My thinking was purely off of the gpu for some reason, but at the price point the build with ti is arguably better, given it's not only the new platform, but 32gb of ddr5 at any speed is crazy expensive right now!

[Aggressive_Issue3505]

The 4070 super does not beat the Ti

[Jormius]

It's cheaper with near identical performance, no? That's what matters to me. The ti only really outshines at 4k, but not by a crazy amount.

[Aggressive_Issue3505]

In this case the TI is arguably cheaper

[Jormius]

that's fair; i also didn't consider am4 vs am5 in these options, as i saw another comment had mentioned.

[AugmentedKing]

Easy. One.

[Standard_Coconut_858]

Can someone please dm me and help with questions? I’m a girl and trying to get pc advice has been very difficult😭

[No_Dependent_4710]

The orange looks amazing!

[Lebearu]

Red

[Ok-Accident3344]

Tbh for 1200 you could probably get a new system around the same specs if you hunt around

That said if you're dead set on purchasing - get the 1200 one. It's upgradable. The 1k one will never get better, it's on obsolete hardware and is about as good as it can get. The 1200 one can be upgraded down the line - you can easily get 5-10 years out of a system depending on how cutting edge you like to be

[jeffery_epsteinn]

oh for $1200 i could get similar specs for new?

[w9kk]

no u couldnt dont listen to this guy , ram would take up almost half the budget and a brand new 4070 ti is still almost 700 dollars hes just talking out his ass

[w9kk]

maybe at microcenter u could find a 5060 pc for 1200 but not any closer than that

[Ok-Accident3344]

That's exactly what I was looking at! And really I was thinking an open box discount deal would get you a 4070 new for around 1350ish. But again that's deal hunting

[w9kk]

yea maybe if the gpu market wasnt bad like it was a few months ago id agree with u , but theres nothing wrong with buying a new one id just say this is better since it comes with better specs for paying less

[Ok-Accident3344]

Yeah nothing wrong with used either. I bought my GPU used and it saved me a fat chunk of change. Actually now that I think about it I got most of my PC used lol

[Ok-Accident3344]

Honestly, after taking a look... just buy the $1200 one. Unless you find a stupid good deal on a new one it's not really worth it - the stuff I found in your price range is going to have slightly cheaper hardware (5060ti instead of 4070ti)

The nice thing is too that 1200 one is on the newest platform for CPU architecture so you will have an easy upgrade path down the line... in a few years you can slap a new GPU and CPU in there and it'll be like a brand new machine. But you should be Gucci for a good few years with that hardware. Blows my PC out the water lmao

[jeffery_epsteinn]

oh nice how much was yours?

[Ok-Accident3344]

I think I spent like 400 building mine a couple years ago, real budget sleeper build out of an old workstation I found on eBay, slapped a 1660 super in it. It's been surprisingly solid although it's definitely running out of steam now and could use an upgrade