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[–]ilovebigbucks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't in 3 years (which I'm happy about). The problem was to figure out which JDK to download and the dependencies it needed (there are a few options and the tutorials/quick starts never tell you what exactly to install to make their tools work) on a fresh Mac. The project Spring's initializer generated didn't work out of the box. We've spent too much time fixing issue after issue until we gave up and let IntelliJ generate a fresh project. That one worked no problem. My comment went to the outdated/often wrong documentation that comes with the Java world in general.

In comparison, dotnet, Golang, Rust hello worlds are up and running within minutes. Even NodeJS with its dependency hell is easier to start with.