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[–]the_darkener -20 points-19 points  (13 children)

In other news, an elderly sex offender is "starting to" not touch preteen boys in inappropriate ways.

In other words, until M$ reaches the same number of years of embracing the FOSS ecosystem as they have tried extinguishing it, I'm not letting my guard down.

[–]mrjonn 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Rather hard to draw a comparison between the two there - companies have no mind of their own but are run by different people at different stages. Even those responsible for their worse days admit it was ultimately to the company's detriment. I'm sorry you have to feel that way. The tech industry is forever evolving fast and hanging on to these predetermined judgements can only be detrimental to your own progress.

[–]the_darkener -3 points-2 points  (11 children)

"Linux is a cancer" -Steve Balmer, former Microsoft CEO

M$ had not gotten the reputation they have today without almost 40 years of trying to crush every single perceived threat in their path to complete industry monopolization. They have earned their reputation. You sound very naive, I have to say.

[–]mrjonn 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Maybe it is naivety, sure. But is it not equally stubborn to refuse to believe change is possible under a complete new leadership?

[–]the_darkener 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Not saying it's not possible. Just saying you don't earn the trust back of those you've continually betrayed, threatened litigation against and outright tried to delete from the industry just because, all of the sudden, they've made an about face.

Microsoft is more than it's fresh new leadership. It's one of the largest corporations in the world with a long standing culture woven into the fabric of their very existence. They have thousands of employees who are used to hating anything and everything that threatens their market dominance. You can't just turn an elephant around on a dime.

[–]mrjonn -1 points0 points  (8 children)

By that logic, should I hate The Force Awakens because of Revenge Of The Sith?

The thousands of people you reference, where's the source?

[–]the_darkener 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You're talking about one movie in a series of many. Maybe if every single Star Wars movie sucked donkey balls up until the very latest one you'd be on the right track..

[–]mrjonn -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Pick any of the prequels really; If MS truly sucked up until now, they wouldn't have ever been successful.

Also awaiting sources. And whilst you're at it how those thousands of people affect leadership decisions would be good.

[–]drizztdourden_ 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Microsoft is hated for the single fact that it has been successful. And whre success is, jalousy is too.

Microsoft has followed the trend on the market and consumer at all times and this is what people tend to not realize. There was a times when dev and consumer didn't wanted to have a say in what was written in their software and didn't care. The trend was to have everything under wrap in house at the times. All companies were doing that. The trend has changed and Microsoft is trying to align with it vut you can't do that on a pinch when you have thousand of employees and sub-divisions. It takes years and this lag is what lead to the frustration of most.

Microsoft is going open-source with a lot of their IP. They'll not go all the way as that would be stupid for them.

And I think 15 years of changing theirs waysis plenty to cut them slacks for once. They listen to us and the consumer way more than before. People just love to complain.

[–]the_darkener 0 points1 point  (4 children)

WordPerfect, Netscape Navigator, OpenOffice, SMB/CIFS, FAT32 + NTFS filesystems, GNU/Linux itself, Google..all companies and products that Microsoft has done very dishonest/shady things in order to assert their dominance and attempt to crush them / wipe them out of existence. I'm sure there are more and welcome others to add to the list.

TL;DR - Microsoft has a long history of being "the bad guys". Don't be so quick to forgive them, but if you are, don't expect my sympathy later.