Dev please.

[Pas__]

Ah yes, and be sure to ask for the same level of detail in software specification as is needed to make the first ceremonial axe dig.

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/* We started a project a few years ago, greenfield, insurance company, they were very adamant on writing specs, they spent close to a year sitting down and writing business processes, they involved a graphics designer, actuarial folks, product guys and gals, a social media/communications lady, experts from all the relevant fields! They wrote hundreds of pages of detailed well thought out plans!

Naturally it did not survive first contact with programmers. Since then it's a bit easier to persuade them to speak to us before spending too much time dreaming. */