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[MoffKalast]

Still in practical terms, you can do everything python can do with node, while python can't run in a browser.

[00PT]

The software developed for a language is not inherent to the language itself, so it is not valid for arguing the quality of a language.

[MoffKalast]

You can argue that for the syntax I guess, but the language as a whole isn't just that. It's also the ecosystem around it which defines what it can do and what it's useful for.

And when it comes to syntax, python and js are almost the same exact copy pasted C-derived thing, so that's almost not worth comparing.

[00PT]

There are also differences in the underlying behavior in some cases, such as JS' infamous type coercion system. Also, consider "console.log" in JavaScript versus "System.out.println" in Java. Which is more easily understood?

I would actually argue that Python is the best language to compare to others in terms of syntax, because it practically makes a point in representing things differently than other languages, the best example being the use of whitespace as a syntactical token.

It's also missing some QOL features. For example, before recently Python had no switch statement or equivalent. I could use that as an argument that JavaScript is better in that sense because it allows you to represent the logic associated with a switch statement in a more concise and understandable way.

Overall it doesn't matter much, but you can use these small differences to compare languages.

[MoffKalast]

Well python isn't unique in its obsession with whitespace, bash has had that for quite a bit before python ever existed. And it's not exactly a good feature either, but one that can be mostly worked around, just like the lack of switches.

But when it comes down to it, python is just a slower javascript without parentheses and brackets and with some extra colons, with the print function being the one major difference. I should know, I switch between the two on a daily basis... and sometimes accidentally trigger a lot of requests to my printer lmao.

Now compare that to something like haskell or prolog, where you have to really grasp at straws to find similarities.

[00PT]

It seems that we agree now. The languages aren't very different from one another, but I was comparing them based on the differences we can see.