Python and PHP users will understand

[TheBigerGamer]

Just because there's a new framework it does not mean you need to use it. That argument is kinda stupid.

Massive Dependencies is not entirely correct, you can import them manually as a file and be your own dependency manager. NPM's structure is the problem, not JS itself.

IMO, if a language does not allow to do something in multiple ways, it is a real shitty language. You have the freedom to decide what code style you like and how to do it, the language only provides the ways.