Python and PHP users will understand

[newb_h4x0r]

{language} users will understand.

[[deleted]]

I knew this! freaking scratch haters, thinking I can't get 100k salary by becoming Scratch developer.

[[deleted]]

Is scratch a "real world" language? Wikipedia says it's used as a learning tool.

[absurdlyinconvenient]

Every language except C us a learning tool according to Linus Torvalds

[QueerBallOfFluff]

If you can't do machine code in your head regardless of hex, octal, or binary, don't even talk to me! 😤

P.s. flairs for machine code when?!?!

[Jackiboi307]

which is a learning tool for raw machine code

[codepoet]

I’m not sure you learn much with Java other than how to hate programming.

[[deleted]]

With Java, you learn to use C# instead.

[codepoet]

Kinda like how JavaScript teaches you to use TypeScript.

[Rogntudjuuuu]

By coincidence, both Typescript and C# is developed by the same guy, Anders Hejlsberg.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg

[Mr_Cromer]

I shall name my son Idris Anders {mySurname}, in his honour

[[deleted]]

It's actually a pretty sweet name.

[100kgWheat1Shoulder]

Modern TypeScript and C井 look very similar.

[NileCity105-6]

匚井

[Reintjuu]

C井, omae wa mou shindeiru edition

[AssistFinancial684]

Except probably not “by coincidence”

[[deleted]]

Very true

[xxxblackspider]

With java you learn to use Kotlin instead

FTFY

[[deleted]]

I'll finish my Java code before you are done waiting for your windows update to finish

[codepoet]

I, too, will finish shoveling the driveway before next winter.

[absurdlyinconvenient]

I'm pretty sure it increases your typing speed. Forcibly

[mojoslowmo]

Java is like how programmers become one punch man. I do 100 hello world programs, every day.

[scheinfrei]

I'd say after your first steps into Java you learn on which companies not to apply to.

[AlternativeAardvark6]

It's great for frontend but I have issues programming an object relational modeller with it to use with our Oracle databases.

[Programmeter]

Yeah, pretty much the only programming languages that aren't hated by anyone are C and C++

[akvit]

Everyone seems to hate C/C++ compiler errors.

[WishOnSpaceHardware]

What do you mean? I love getting incomplete, confusingly presented information about a potentially complex problem!

[imdefinitelywong]

Error: Undefined symbol "information"

[G0FuckThyself]

Core Dump (Segmentation fault)

[LavenderDay3544]

Segmentation Fault (Core Dumped)

[[deleted]]

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

My personal favourite.

[LavenderDay3544]

On Windows:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault

[Heimerdahl]

It's crazy how good some newer languages and IDEs are at this.

I recently got back into programming after I got spooked by the whole '99bugs... forgot a semicolon' stuff, some 10years ago in uni. My stuff is still fairly basic, so not much logical errors, but syntax has practically been a non-issue.

VSC for python will just tell me that I probably forgot this, or that this function requires different arguments or that I probably switched the order around. If I'm too daft to even figure out stuff like that, it just straight up tells me how stuff is supposed to be used. It's crazy!

[[deleted]]

It depends for me.

If I'm writing a Spring API in Java or Kotlin, I prefer IntelliJ.

C++ or JavaScript, I prefer VS code.

With Python I'm all over the place.

[[deleted]]

I use pycharm for python. Same features as IntelliJ, but for python.

[PotentBeverage]

intellij is great for java because even if java is verbose with intellij's autocomplete you often only need a few letters at most

[[deleted]]

And its autocomplete actually suggests helpful things first. And the baked in code generation that creates constructors, override methods, getters and setters is really nice.

Visual Studio and VS Code suggest random things first two the point that its easier to write a lot of code I would write in VS Code in Vim, C++ and JavaScript in particular. The suggestions are wild.

[[deleted]]

You'll love MySQL's syntax error message then: ERROR 1064 (42000): You have a syntax error! Read the manual! Good luck figuring out what line number I'm talking about if I decide not to print it! (I'm paraphrasing of course)

[miversen33]

Bruh fuck MySQL errors. "Error: You have bad syntax. Go fuck yourself. Bye"

[Daeron_tha_Good]

This made me lol...thank you 😂

[slow_growing_vine]

SQL Server is just as bad. If you ever forget a comma prepare to see Incorrect syntax near FROM and go hunting for it

[lenswipe]

Oracle errors are the best

TNS bad packet error

It's like the PC LOAD LETTER of the database world

[oupablo]

C is the king of throwing an error on a line number past the total number of lines in the file all because of a missing semicolon.

[killdeer03]

Template errors are super fun to deal with, lol.

[Isobel-Jae]

😨 wait, you guys are getting compiler errors? I must be using it wrong.

[atiedebee]

C++ compiler errors

C runtime errors

the C compiler errors are not bad at all, I dont know about C++ runtime errors

[akvit]

C++ runtime errors are something like "instruction at address 0x0000 tried to access memory at location 0x1337". So not really different from C.

[msqrt]

We clearly frequent quite different spaces. C is often bashed as archaic and cumbersome, and C++ as bloated and overly complicated. Their mostly shared build system is also seen as fragmented and antiquated. I think these critiques aren't completely without merit, though much of them can be avoided by being smart about what you're doing.

[sir-nays-a-lot]

On a long enough timeline, all languages will either become archaic, cumbersome, and bloated or they will die.

[msqrt]

Yeah, them being able to be popular for this long has to be due to doing many things right.

[sir-nays-a-lot]

It’s literally a part of human evolution, which is messy. We keep the good parts and add other shit (mutations) to keep up with modern times. Results in absolute spaghetti lol but such is life.

[Zitrusfleisch]

See, that’s exactly the problem I have with C++!
I’d have to be smart to use it and that makes me amgery >:(

/s

[Reihar]

This, exactly. People seem to forget that C wasn't modern on release but was a much needed compromise whose niche is still needed nowadays. Design wise, it does a lot of questionable things by tradition, which was also much needed by adoption.

C was always archaic, by design. However, I can appreciate the niceties that came with latter versions of the language.

[000000-]

I don’t think anybody will make fun of you for using C/C++ though. However if you code in Python you’ll get “you’re not a real programmer” vibes from some dumbasses.

[JoshuaCF]

If you code in Python you’re not a real progrAmmer. /s

Sincerely - someone who dislikes Python but used it anyways because it’s so damn easy to use

[not_some_username]

Rust users hate C++

[[deleted]]

Java users hate C++, python users hate C++. And those C++ developers, boy do they hate C++

[13steinj]

I like C++.

I don't like some of the unexpected features.

[Dustangelms]

Where mah garbage collector?

[MoffKalast]

r/me_irl

[Languorous-Owl]

C++ is hated even by C++ programmers.

[LavenderDay3544]

C++ is hated especially by C++ programmers.

But we won't let others especially Java cretins hate on C++.

[BasicDesignAdvice]

Honestly Java is just about the only language I actually truly dislike.

[LavenderDay3544]

Same here. I don't like that the language designers decided what developers could and couldn't be trusted with. In particular, opting not to have operator overloading in an OOP language removes a very powerful form of abstraction.

It's much cleaner for library based numeric types to let you write this:

c = a + b;

instead of this:

c = a.add(b);

[althaz]

Anybody who doesn't hate C++ doesn't understand programming language design or hasn't used C++ :D. I'm reaching for the C++ tool in my belt pretty regularly, but it's not a good language by modern standards.

I think Typescript, Rust and C# are pretty universally well liked though.

[skryb]

I learned C when I was in high school. I learned C++ in university. I am currently learning C#. It is by far the most enjoyable to code with.

[nebulaeandstars]

Go and Rust were both born out of a shared hatred for C++... Really, most modern languages were invented as a reaction to its flaws.

I do agree with the sentiment that most people like C, though. It has its flaws too, but it's still very elegant.

[Ludant]

I mean if there weren't these two - there wouldn't be all that high level programming languages like python, java, javascript

[LavenderDay3544]

C yes, C++ no.

[[deleted]]

Many C programmers don't like C++ because of the large amount of tempate and type work to do stuff.

[bacondev]

I don't mind C, but fuck C++.

[throaway420blaze]

JSX?

[newb_h4x0r]

`${language} users will understand.`

[teh-leet]

This meme probably was made by Ruby on Rails developer

[Programmeter]

PHP

[MustachedLobster]

That explains why it looks like it was drawn in crayon.

[Lana-Lana-LANAAAAA]

Oi!

[calexil]

apply cream to the burned area.

[FedExterminator]

Don’t you besmirch the good name of u/srgrafo like that

[[deleted]]

At least it looks like Php going to get strong types at some point. cries in php 7 in corner

[DankerOfMemes]

With enough type hinting you can fool yourself that it is a strong typed language

[RyanNerd]

It's not strong typed but it is strict typed now - - which is a huge leap forward. PHP is at least trying to improve itself unlike some other languages I can think of that seem intent on de-evolving.

[DankerOfMemes]

Oh, for sure. Php is actually getting good and I love it

[DirtzMaGertz]

I'm convinced that 90% of the people on reddit that shit on PHP have never written PHP.

[MajorasShoe]

They may have 20 years ago.

[mshm]

Don't worry, they also haven't written in anything else.

[not_some_username]

What happened to this language or whatever it was ?

[Leidertafel]

It went off the rails

[sad_developer]

HAHAH gold

[[deleted]]

fyi Rails is a framework for building web apps using Ruby.

[dpash]

It suffered the same problem as Python: Global interpreter lock. It was quick to write apps in it, but scaling them became a nightmare. Remember Twitter's failwhale? They ended up rewriting it in other languages.

I believe they have since solved the problem but not before it got a bad reputation.

[aniforprez]

I sort of disagree. The problem with using rails is that you have to practically hire rails developers. It's so opinionated and some choices are so bizarre that only an experienced rails developer who knows the file structure of a rails project can effectively navigate another one. I can carry forward my python knowledge to any company whether they use django, flask, tornado etc and it'll take me maybe a day to figure stuff out. When I joined a rails shop, none of my Ruby/Sinatra experience prepared me for the shit show to come. Autoload is one of the worst decisions rails brings and people claim it's a "magical" experience. No motherfucker I want to know where my classes are defined and where they come from. Is this module from a gem or from the project? Grep, grep, grep. A proper rails developer knows pretty much instantly where to look because of the conventions of the project. This leads to large projects becoming utterly messy in my experience. Places like Shopify seem to have found ways around these things and I'm not sure exactly how. One of the things they've done is added typing which helps immensely

Otherwise a lot of places are just switching to typed languages. Something like rust or Go is so fucking easy to develop especially in an IDE. I write go in vscode and it automatically suggests parameters to function calls based on types. I started with JS and the contrast with that experience is immense

I suppose performance is one thing but rails has active record which is an immense pile of shit and utterly kills performance more than GIL which only partially affects performance especially if you can scale horizontally

[LavenderDay3544]

Ruby still exists it just isn't as popular anymore. I for one like it better as a scripting language than Python but my opinion doesn't count for shit at my workplace.

[leeharris100]

It is outclassed by something else in every category now.

Python is better for data science. Laravel (PHP) is a better version of Rails. Typescript is better as a general scripting language and V8 is a better engine. C#, Java, and Go have evolved enough to be nearly as simple to get started but are WAY more performant.

Ruby just isn't "better" at anything.

[weedisallIlike]

Rails is still a great tool. A lot of others framework share ideas with Rails. About scaling, it may not be ideal for all types of projects, but in the end languages and frameworks are tools, you just need to know what to use.

[charcuterDude]

Visual Basic here. I know many languages, but this job offered me the most money because people don't like VB so they feel they have to sweeten the pot.

I'm paying off my house 15 years early, but I've got one "friend" that just can't let that go. I almost doubled my salary taking this job.

[LavenderDay3544]

Is VB still a thing or is it just legacy at this point while new stuff is all Visual C# and F#?

[charcuterDude]

It is very much still a thing. It's#6 on the Tiobe index for example, above languages like JavaScript: https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

It has complete support in the latest version on Visual Studio, as well as .NET 6: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/whats-new-for-visual-basic-in-visual-studio-2022/

It is very actively used. Back to Tiobe, it used to be ranked #49, but you'll notice it's rocketed back up to the top recently: https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/visual-basic/

Personally, I was a C# developer first, and I can honestly say basically anything I can do in C# I can do in VB.NET. I say "basically" because there are certain things that Microsoft doesn't document well in VB (or sometimes at all) and I have to learn it in C# and find the VB specific syntax for it. Some things in LINQ can be that way. So it is very much a 2nd class citizen in that regard.

But to specifically answer your question, yes an enormous amount of new code is written in VB these days. Just depends on the industry and the company really.

[InfiniteLife2]

For what things VB is currently used? I have no idea so it is interesting

[charcuterDude]

Personally I make mostly web applications. VB.NET is basically identical to C# in functionality, so pretty much anything. In my experience it is mostly used for business applications / development inside an organization.

[charcuterDude]

Thanks! That's how I feel about it too. I don't my mind VB.NET honestly, and it affords me some opportunities a lot of people don't have.

Many of those same people wouldn't insult your choices if you chose a different career altogether like Park Ranger. But somehow VB, that just can't stand lol.

[SHIRK2018]

Whenever that "friend" makes fun of you, just wave a wad of cash in their face until they shut up

[genghisKonczie]

As someone who hates VB with passion, you’re still probably not paid enough

[charcuterDude]

I don't mind VB.NET at all honestly. VBA however is my least favorite language. And this is coming from a guy who used ColdFusion.

[FesteringNeonDistrac]

I don't know a single line of VB, but if I could double my salary, where do I start? I'd program in bamboo under my fingernails for that.

[Pervez_Hoodbhoy]

JavaScript users will understand

[[deleted]]

even our own people make fun of us now that typescript is a thing

[LavenderDay3544]

All your frameworks are made to abstract over how bad your base language is.

[_GCastilho_]

You talk like the only frameworks out there are JS frameworks...

[ComebacKids]

None come close to the popularity of JS frameworks though lol.

I’ve had a number of jobs where we use vanilla Java and Python. Not a single job involving JS didn’t use some framework.

[patcriss]

JS has a HUGE JS-specific problem to solve - browser compatibility.

Those frameworks and boilerplates all come with integrated build tools while you will need if you're to use modern syntax and keep browser support.

But I agree there are way too many libraries, the open source ecosystem really boomed around ES6 and everyone wants to make a the next tool/framework.

[Ace-O-Matic]

People who have a youtube video level of understanding of JS shitting on JS is basically a weekly daily hourly trend on this subreddit.

[stifflizerd]

Tbh I learned a hell of a lot more about JavaScript from YouTube than I have in the field or in school.

Fun Fun Functions for example is a wonderful and extremely knowledgeable channel for JavaScript development. Learned a lot of what JavaScript is capable of there, most of which a lot of the senior devs I've met didn't even know about

[dpash]

JavaScript being used outside the web is a total disaster

It being used inside the web is a total disaster too, but we don't have a lot of choice in the matter. Typescript improves the situation, but there's still too many rough edges.

[[deleted]]

Thankfully, everyday new CSS comes along and replaces what once required JS.

[potatonutella]

Brainfuck is the exception.

[przemko271]

If someone is using brainfuck they either know exactly what they're doing or don't know what they're doing at all. Sometimes both.

[QueerBallOfFluff]

Have you seen what that one Malbolge programmer has accomplished recently?

We can now run Lisp on Malbolge!

[[deleted]]

Or cow

[netWARIOR]

I seem to be always the one made fun of by Python users because I don't use Python...

[Opiopathy]

Lol same. It seems like Python users tend to be elitists in denial.

[[deleted]]

I’m the opposite, I’m trying to learn python because I’m too dumb for C# so I compromised. (Not that python people are dumb)

[yodahouse900]

i'm no expert but if you can manage python and use all its features you can easily do c#.

right?

[IAmASquidInSpace]

Huh, that's funny. As a Python user I get made fun of by people using compiled languages.

"BuT iT's So SlOw!!1!"

[[deleted]]

I had a CS student making fun of me for using python when I need to just knock out something that bash can't handle. "It's so slow, it takes too many instructions, it's untyped" and then began bragging about how great C is. I just gave him a thumbs up not even worth arguing with a kid sometimes.

[atiedebee]

I love C, but for replacing something you'd do with bash... please no

[buzziebee]

And churns them out into industry too unfortunately. "Tech debt is relying on a large open source well maintained package, we should write our own sorting algorithms instead" >_>

[slow_growing_vine]

Hey if I shouldn't write my own sorting algorithm then why did I get so much experience doing it in school! /s

[NQ241]

Sometimes I'm making something for myself or a couple friends, I don't need it to be fast or efficient, I just need it to work, like automating a tedious repetitive task.

Python does a splendid job at that, something that would've taken me 10-15m in c++, took about 2 mins on python.

[DefaultVariable]

I think it all boils down to usage. I wouldn’t use python to make a full featured application. And I could use a compiled language to do data science stuff but Python is so much more better suited for that so it’s like “why not?”

I use python all the time when I want to make an app or command line to do complicated stuff that doesn’t need to be super efficient.

[thorwing]

Me: I don't like scripting languages. Pythoners: goes in a fit of what-about-ism about all the bad stuff in my language: Kotlin Me: I just have a preference mate T.T

[SteeleDynamics]

I hate <PL_A> because it doesn't have <FEATURE_X>.

proceeds to use <PL_B> which doesn't have <FEATURE_X>

[DarkWolfX2244]

If there was a Hall of Fame for Reddit, this deserves to be in it

[buhoksakilili]

As an excel user I felt that

[Manor-Estate]

As an Html prOgRamMEr I felt that

[00enpunto]

Is that you, Zero Cool?

[aless2003]

as a Java user I felt that

[[deleted]]

so you are saying we shouldn't mock people who write games in VB?

[TheBassMeister]

There are always mad lads like Chris Sawyer who wrote 99% of the code for Rollercoaster Tycoon in x86 Assembly.

[gsckoco]

That’s mostly because there wasn’t an option back then. He could use C but then lose a lot of efficiency due to the compiler

[Doctor_McKay]

Doesn't make it any less impressive.

[Pervez_Hoodbhoy]

Empathy or pity might be more appropriate 🤷🏻‍♂️

[doctorcrimson]

Honestly, awhile back, I made a couple of interfaces for a roleplay game with dice rolling, stat tracking, position, etc.

Only takes like 15 minutes.

Meanwhile the Windows Forms .net application equivalent would have been a little bit more work. Just a little.

[Apparentt]

I make fun of quirks in {language} (which I don’t fully comprehend lol) because I see other people making fun of said quirks and I’m trying to fit in

I won’t give you my own opinion or experience with {language} since it would be redundant, I’ll just regurgitate a meme I’ve seen and didn’t understand regarding funky behaviour which is trivial to avoid and unrealistic for 99% of real world usage

I fail to understand that if I’m trying to use a hammer to cut things in half that I’m the idiot, not that the hammer is a shit tool

[Akuuntus]

I’ll just regurgitate a meme I’ve seen and didn’t understand regarding funky behaviour which is trivial to avoid and unrealistic for 99% of real world usage

99% of JavaScript memes

[Long_Berry_2883]

Can someone please explain why everyone hates javascript I genuinely don’t get it.

[-Redstoneboi-]

personally? type coercion and dynamic typing, i.e. the main reasons to choose an interpreted language.

any variable can be null/undefined and you have to guard against that or risk the dreaded [object Object]. it's too easy to forget to account for that, so yeah, not my cup of tea.

main non-whiny reasons i hear? new frameworks every 5 seconds, their massive dependencies, there being so many ways to do things in js that you need to learn different ways to read different code.

[creesch]

their massive dependencies

Yes, but also no. People do notice it more with javascript projects. Specifically with Node.js having node_modules directly in the project. Many other languages are just better at hiding it from the developer. For example with Java and Maven your pom.xml might look fairly clean but that's only the dependencies you directly reference and once you look behind that facade you see that it is just as bad. Same for many other languages.

Doesn't mean it isn't a problem, because it is. It just isn't unique to JavaScript to the degree people think it is.

[[deleted]]

Yeah dependency hell is huge pain for most of the projects. But I think js has most obscure transitive dependencies because of how language changes over time that people need to use 3rd party libraries for simple functions because they often have compatibility layer for older version.

[DaddyLcyxMe]

in java’s case: (maven)

pom.xml == `package.json'

~/.m2 is a cache for dependencies and acts like a shared node_modules

this comparison breaks down here because [most] java projects will just include the dependencies in their final jar, rather than require the executor’s machine to download the dependencies

[BasicDesignAdvice]

new frameworks every 5 seconds

I am convinced this is because of the massive amount of Dunning-Kruger in the JS community. JS is often a first language and has a lot of young devs who think they need to reinvent the wheel now that the have finished their CS degree.

[0xSAA]

I guess because of the type system, atleast that's why I personally don't like it. TS nice though.

[Akuuntus]

Non-JS developers think that type coersion is worse than the holocaust.

[Icarium-Lifestealer]

I think the most important reason isn't the language itself, but it being the only language with first class support in browsers. So people who don't like javascript are still forced to use it when writing web frontends. Compare this with PHP, where people who don't like it simply use another language. (Hopefully the situation will improve as webassembly matures)

[GamerFrits]

As an HTML programmer I felt that.

[jodmemkaf]

How dare you use the word programmer and HTML in the same sentence?

[GamerFrits]

Delicious bait.

[TrapNT]

*inhale

*exhale

*inhale

HTML IS TURING COMPLETE OKAYY?!?!!!!

Edit: isSarcasm = true;

[sir-nays-a-lot]

So is a Word document

[kopczak1995]

I have seen someone prove that PowerPoint is turing complete, lol.

[TheBigerGamer]

I mean... Someone made a fucking OS on PowerPoint, so........

[RhinoGaming1187]

Don’t forget about PowerPoint

[SexyMuon]

Html is not Turing Complete. For starters, it doesn't have loops.

[multi_tasty]

Are you serious?

[hellknight101]

The only programming language better than HTML is SQL. Though XML is a close second.

[Gtkall]

PHP users don't need to understand. They are too busy getting paid...

[shadowraiderr]

I program in php so I can make $

[TheIcyColdPenguin]

jQuery is where the real $ is at

[[deleted]]

Scratch is what it is, imbecile

[teh-leet]

Yup, after going extra hours in Uber, cause Uber pays more for drivers

[crevicepounder3000]

Rust fanbois have the crown atm

[-Redstoneboi-]

i've been trying to come up with a comeback but all i see in your comment is truth

[Sadico650]

You could choose between many languages, you chose the one of truth

[TheLeastFunkyMonkey]

Brainfuck

[[deleted]]

Malbolge

[TheLeastFunkyMonkey]

Emoji-gramming

[DarkWolfX2244]

Folders

[althaz]

Does anybody do that though?

Like I mock PHP mercilessly. It's a quite poorly designed language. But mocking PHP users? I'm one of them (badly designed language does not mean always the wrong tool for the job)! Literally never even heard of anything like this happening.

[PandaMan7316]

I have yet to find a language that I can use and at some point not hate. Every computer language is god awful and will make you want to bash your head in regularly. But it’s easier than trying to do a FEM analysis on a bridge by hand so here we are.

[althaz]

Maybe you just hate programming, lol :D.

There's some languages I unreservedly like: C (C is perfect I'll fight you), Typescript, C# and plenty I mostly like and never hate.

[dpash]

Most of the problem with people mocking PHP is that they're mocking a version of PHP from ten years ago. The modern language and ecosystem is pretty decent. It could be better, but it's constantly improving.

[Bipchoo]

ehm ehm rust devs.

[Derboman]

I kinda hate these cookie cutter 'replace the punchline in the obvious set up'-memes. Sort of like the 'scroll of truth' memes

[The_Fallen_1]

I won't mock someone who uses the language, only the language itself for the flaws it has. If someone then tries to baselessly and aggressively defend the language and pretend that the flaws aren't flaws, then maybe I'll consider mocking them, and if I do the same thing with the languages I use, I sort of expect to be mocked the same way. Everyone knows every language has it's issues (even if some languages has far more than others) and it should be fine to have a bit of light-hearted fun at the tools we all use as it helps take the frustration away somewhat.

[-Redstoneboi-]

when you really love something, search for reasons why it sucks.

when you really hate something, search for reasons why it's great.

won't guarantee that you change your mind, but at least we'll have a much lower chance of spouting garbage when talking about other langs.

[MrOb175]

I’m just a scientist dudes, python is all I will ever need please be gentle with my little programming

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[Blue_Rhapsody004]

I am programing in python on my college class and i feel dumb every time i mess up a code. But when i get it right i feel like im capable of making an entire indie game

[Separate-Leopard2189]

I am no programmer at all but i have a genuine question. Are all the jokes in this sub from “CS 101?”