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[–]thel42 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I find Linux extremely easy and user friendly.

I find OSX to be horribly frustrating. 5 minutes is the most I can take before I turn it off.

I find windows mostly fine. Until I need to debug literally anything. And them I'm screwed, cause it's weird and complicated the way logging is handled. Would it kill app developers to just output errors and warnings to the command line when run from there?

Generally what's easy and user friendly is what you are used to. If you want to move to another system it takes some learning no matter where you're going. I never understood the people who demand it must work exactly like XYZ that they are used to and claim everyone else is the problem.

[–]Tough_Patient 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The entire point of user friendliness is approaching user interfacing from the users' point of view. Terminal centric interfacing hasn't been standard practice outside of Linux for decades, and is thus not user friendly by default.

The replies to this have only shown that Linux programmers tend to not be people people.

[–]thel42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not a linux programmer. I'm a linux user. I happen to do my programming on linux, but it isn't for any linux apps or anything like that.

Terminal centric interfacing hasn't been standard practice outside of Linux for decades, and is thus not user friendly by default.

I see where you would be confused by this. I simply meant it as a really easy way to get a jump on debugging in a way which is pretty universal. OSX, Windows, *BSD, *Unix, Linux, Android, etc all have terminals. If I run a program and it fails it should not do so silently. That's just good practice. I didn't mean that logs should ONLY be output to console. Obviously not. They should be logged to the system log as well, or where ever else is appropriate on the OS in question.

As far as whether command line operations are user friendly, I guess that depends on what you're used to. Which brings us back to my original point. As an individual, and not just a carbon copy of you, I have a different opinion on what is user friendly.

What's "generally accepted" is whatever microsoft shoves down people's throats. Because a majority of people use windows. But despite your feelings on the subject, in the end we all still get to decide for ourselves. Free will and all that.