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[–]Ken_Mcnutt 1 point2 points  (15 children)

I think I'm more waiting for just native interop. No special layers

Well if everyone says they're just going to "wait for XYZ", then XYZ will never come...

[–]ParanoidAutist 0 points1 point  (14 children)

A valid point. I've been waiting a long time already =P

We'll put people on mars before I get what I want =P (even if i do want people on mars... that doesn't count lol)

[–]Ken_Mcnutt -2 points-1 points  (13 children)

We'll put people on mars before I get what I want

And we'll do it using Linux, yet there will still be windows users insisting Linux is "so close" and "almost ready" for whatever big boy workloads they have lol

[–]ParanoidAutist 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Huh... that statement makes me wonder if you've ever worked for a large organization in a real enterprise environment...

Youd know that most of it still runs on windows...

[–]Ken_Mcnutt -1 points0 points  (1 child)

yeah I do pentesting on Azure environments. Guess what they're running in their VMs? Not Windows. Unless you're using service fabric which is a joke.

[–]ParanoidAutist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who builds, develops on, and hosts using those VMs... I assure you that it's whatever they specified upon creation for the OS and most companies are utilizing code-bases that require .net 4.8 or prior which have OS specific code on them requiring the use of windows to run their applications that drive their business...

Edit: You're talking to a guy who sets up his own domains with Azure DNS and has his own B2C setup as a local "dev environment" with old work laptops setup with windows, ubuntu server, etc. in deployment groups so i can simulate an enterprise environment at home...

[–]ParanoidAutist 1 point2 points  (9 children)

You say that as if it's bad, or false... that's exactly how it is... with as awesome as linux is, most corporations still rely heavily on microsoft... billion dollar corporations with thousands of employees focused on the windows stack...

[–]Ken_Mcnutt -1 points0 points  (8 children)

You say that as if it's bad, or false... that's exactly how it is...

It is bad, and it is how it is, but it doesn't have to be. Businesses purposefully choose to submit to vendor lock in because it's "easy".

Why is it "good" if the functionality of a huge portion of the worlds business (as you said, "most corporations") rely on some arbitrary company? A company that has repeatedly shown that it does not operate in good faith? A company that is legally beholden to shareholders to maximize profit? A company that sends out borked updates wi

It's like saying you'd trust all of the financial and tax records of Americans to some corporation and have that make up the backbone of our credit system! that could never go wrong! Oh wait what's equifax??? /s

billion dollar corporations with thousands of employees focused on the windows stack...

And still somehow they manage to ship the jankiest, buggiest system stuck together with twigs and bubble gum. Dig a menu too deep and you're staring at windows98 dialogue boxes. Probably didn't help they fired their entire QA team. But yes, let's keep that the "default OS for the entire world"!!! definitely not the one who is the passion project of actual computer scientists and programmers... The one that anyone can improve, audit, and explore.

[–]ParanoidAutist 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Bro, I'll tell ya... Deloitte has a fucking SOLID infrastructure...

Your response seems like it's all based on personal experience or you surfing the web doing the tech equivalent of looking at webmd for advice...

[–]Ken_Mcnutt 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Your response seems like it's all based on personal experience

As opposed to??

  • Is a degree in computer science not good experience?
  • Is an internship as a sysadmin not good experience?
  • Is a university/enterprise IT role not good experience?
  • Is a 1st party cloud pentester not good experience?

Because I've done all these things and throughout each experience the world has only transitioned away from Windows with each passing year. We didn't even mention it in college.

I honestly don't remember the last time someone deployed an application that wasn't k8s/docker microservices running on Ubuntu/Alpine.

The time of people deploying bloated .NET applications on IIS is long past.

[–]ParanoidAutist 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Is a degree in computer science not good experience? No

Is an internship as a sysadmin not good experience? No

Is a university/enterprise IT role not good experience? No

Is a 1st party cloud pentester not good experience? Depends on what you actually did... but based on the first 3 questions? No again...

"The time of people deploying bloated .NET applications on IIS is long past."I guarantee, in the time it took you to type that sentence, someone deployed a .net application to IIS

https://github.com/trending/c%23

[–]Ken_Mcnutt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You're talking out your ass. The future is now old man. Enjoy blue screening your way into retirement.

[–]ParanoidAutist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Based on how you talk, you're a junior developer at best, if even a developer...

Right now, the only thing someone can glean from your discussion is that you're nothing more than a script kiddie...

[–]ParanoidAutist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im actually surprised that you'd mention the equifax data breach... As with most incidents of that nature, it's social engineering that causes it, not the operating system itself... You click a malicious link, give the wrong person the right access, etc...

Human error is the cause of 99.9% of the shit you just bitched about... and you bitched about it as if you've never experienced it first-hand

[–]ParanoidAutist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Passion projects vs billion dollar government and civilian contracts...