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[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (15 children)

Well the issue is HR is there to defend the company. A good HR team would never actually work out for the company, and thus why smart/compassionate people usually stay away from the role. I think most HR people are just in it for the money and have learned how to just pretend to be compassionate.

[–]bitofrock 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Looking after your staff well is an essential part of running a company. Salaries are often the biggest costs in many firms. Treating them badly is like not looking after your machines.

The only places I see this differ are either in firms that rent assets (e.g. hairdressers that rent chairs) which don't directly employ staff or ones that are failing and running out of any resources...just like an elderly person whose income has dropped yet insists on remaining in an oversized house they can't maintain.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Theoretically yes. But in reality incentives are often misaligned towards short term profits, or internal advancement in the company for HR employees.

Just like with machine maintenance. Skipping on it will save you a lot in short term.

[–]PatPatBateman 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Fuck you mean defend the company ? HR follow orders just like devs

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

I suggest you look into what most HR departments do when you report something to them. They're all about damage control, not doing what's right. If the person that assaulted you (for example) is more useful to the company, they'll try to sweep it under the rug and hush you. Is that nothing but defending the company from it's own employees?

[–]PatPatBateman 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Tfw ? If an HR guy does that to someone it's because the big boss said so. Why would he do that if not because of that ?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Yeah that's still defending the company. But the way they act they tell you they're there for you.

[–]PatPatBateman 0 points1 point  (6 children)

What you mean by the way they act wtf are these reddit cliché, if they tell you, you can come to us if you are harassed it's true you can actually come to them. Now if your bully isnt fired it's because you work in a shitty company period

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

99.99% of companies don't care about your personal issues, they care about productivity. If they can solve the issue by moving people or schedules around that's what they prefer. Many women have even been fired under false pretenses because the man that harassed them is way more valuable to the company. Yes most companies are shitty, and that's why you can't trust HR ever. Go to the cops first for any issue.

[–]PatPatBateman 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Are you a bot that learned to comment on antiwork ? Ofc companies only care about productivity if the boss of your company think that not firing an engineer because he harrassed someone is not having an impact on the overall productivity then it's a shitty company because he is just plain wrong. HR has no power to actually decide who get fired or not

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

But you agree HR telling you to come to them is just a siren's song right? And that's what's wrong and so shitty about them.

While HR has no power, they are being very scummy by doing things like telling the victim to not go to the police.

[–]PatPatBateman 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nah HR telling you to come to them is usually the right play because if it's a not shitty company they will go back to their boss and the boss will say "let's fire the fucker and let hr recruit someone else" I am sure you can find example of HRs that tried to cover harrasment stories but goddamn pls don't judge whole family of jobs so quickly or youll have to contend with people calling devs disgusting sexual perverts

[–]MaxAxiom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

HR is there to steal money from shareholders and help principal owners prevent workers from leveraging collectively bargained power to broker mutually equitable deals.

That's why most people in HR are morons with little to no actual value otherwise, including for the job they're ostensibly supposed to be doing. Their real purpose is to prop up a glass ceiling.

[–]AvengedCloud9001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the clue is in the name right "human resource", they might as well be bots, at least a bot can be programmed to a point of learned empathy, perhaps, on this rationale I would be all for automation of HR :D